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Old 2006-06-14, 10:01 PM
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Re: Does poor ratio equate bad trader?

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Since it is not enforced, this is officially the silliest thread ever...
So the fact that TTD doesent enforce ratios means that a poor ratio doesent equal a bad trader?

I dont get your reasoning behind that o_O
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Old 2006-06-14, 10:35 PM
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Re: BAD trader, Liar= Ragu420 Ragu421 whatever

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Also, it annoys me when somone dl at 500kbps and then drops off a torrent after they dl it, leaving the original seeder to continue seeding alone. If that first person who completed stays on to help seed, then things go much faster. That type of leecher causes the seeder a lot of extra time to get the torrent fully seeded.
Agree with you on this. I hopped onto a show yesterday where the three people were stuck around 85%. I seeded it overnight, and then this morning I saw only two left and the third had hopped right off (he was in the snatched list, but no longer seeding). I left a note in the thread saying I didn't think it was cool that he hopped off right away after I had helped him out. *Those* are the leechers I don't like.

But Chachi, I don't know that 90% is even a realistic number. I have a share ratio of 3.82 mostly from simply uploading shows that I didn't originally seed. I am always looking to see if there are straglers and then helping them out. I do that everynight. So, I am 'taking away upload possibilities' from other people. (But, they are only possibilities if the others even take a look to see if they could have seeded.)

We could be strict here about ratios like on other sites, but then we would be only a bittorrent site. If we were only bittorrent, then there would be no need for the Trading forums or Technical Help or The Lounge type forums. Is that what we want to be?
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Old 2006-06-14, 10:41 PM
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Re: BAD trader, Liar= Ragu420 Ragu421 whatever

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... Is that what we want to be?
I don't think that we should enforce the ratios unless they are less than 0.3 or something extremely low like that to supress the total leeches. However, I think if people's ratios are less than 0.9 (according to my above example that is entirely possible) then we should be able to frown upon them
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Old 2006-06-14, 10:57 PM
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Re: Does poor ratio equate bad trader?

Whooooa now,this thing has turned ugly and I dont know why??The one bad trade that Ive had in 5+ years of trading gets blown up into this.I said my two cents in the other thread and many of the people I have traded with {and count as friends}have stood up for me.I believe very much that a reputation is something that a trader should take serious.I would also say that those who have spoken on my behalf have impeccable reputations.My buddy twisteninthenw is pretty much the one who educated and walked me thru the dvd trading process and Im deeply indebted to him.Thanks for your patience and help bro!!There are even more and these folks Ive traded with on MULTIPLE times.Yeah,you may get a shitty disc from me but if you do Ill make it right.Ill do whatever I can anyway.Isnt that what were supposed to do?As far as uploads and downloads go...I cant download because Im dial up and cant comment.I can say that alot of folks that do download kick stuff down thru B&P's to people like me and that dosent show on their ratios.{To you guys CHHERS!!}but I will say that in all of these years to have had only this one bad trade.....hey,shit...I think I'll smoke me a bowl {being a pothead and all} and be grateful of all the GOOD and POSITIVE people that Ive met here on TDD.And you know exactly who you are!!!
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Old 2006-06-14, 11:13 PM
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Re: Does poor ratio equate bad trader?

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Whooooa now,this thing has turned ugly and I dont know why??The one bad trade that Ive had in 5+ years of trading gets blown up into this.I said my two cents in the other thread and many of the people I have traded with {and count as friends}have stood up for me.I believe very much that a reputation is something that a trader should take serious.I would also say that those who have spoken on my behalf have impeccable reputations.My buddy twisteninthenw is pretty much the one who educated and walked me thru the dvd trading process and Im deeply indebted to him.Thanks for your patience and help bro!!There are even more and these folks Ive traded with on MULTIPLE times.Yeah,you may get a shitty disc from me but if you do Ill make it right.Ill do whatever I can anyway.Isnt that what were supposed to do?As far as uploads and downloads go...I cant download because Im dial up and cant comment.I can say that alot of folks that do download kick stuff down thru B&P's to people like me and that dosent show on their ratios.{To you guys CHHERS!!}but I will say that in all of these years to have had only this one bad trade.....hey,shit...I think I'll smoke me a bowl {being a pothead and all} and be grateful of all the GOOD and POSITIVE people that Ive met here on TDD.And you know exactly who you are!!!
if twistedinthenw is your buddy, then you are my buddy too
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Old 2006-06-14, 11:14 PM
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Re: Does poor ratio equate bad trader?

Should'nt someone be packing a bowl right about now??
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Old 2006-06-14, 11:16 PM
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Re: Does poor ratio equate bad trader?

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Whooooa now,this thing has turned ugly and I dont know why??
No, the other thread got kinda sidetracker, or hijacked. So, I moved the discussion out of there to be separate. I think it's an interesting topic and as long as it stays civil, I think it can show why people have differing points of view about share ratios.
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Old 2006-06-14, 11:17 PM
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Re: Does poor ratio equate bad trader?

Thanks Chachi!! Check my list and if you would like a trade,I think twistided can vouch for me,give me a shout.Im always up for a trade and gotta get back to my bud aikox about round 2 of our 10 rounder.
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Old 2006-06-14, 11:26 PM
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Re: Does poor ratio equate bad trader?

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Old 2006-06-14, 11:38 PM
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Re: BAD trader, Liar= Ragu420 Ragu421 whatever

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I disagree. A trade is a trade with two parties exchanging stuff, usually on a 1:1 basis, but 2:1 trades are trades too.

Torrenting however is not trading shows, it is sharing them. When you seed a show, you do so because you want to share the fun with others, with no direct expectations involved. You don't seed a torrent expecting every single user that downloads your show to seed exactly / at least one other show. Of course you hope so, but it's not an obligation as with a trade.

The live music trading trackers only work if the majority of people are into the sharing philosophy, i.e. giving without expecting anything (directly) in return. You just gotta have faith that in the end you'll end up with the shows you're interested in because you know that other people also share what they have without any expectations.

So IMHO torrents are not only different from snail mail trades in a technical sense, but also in the way sharing via BT depends much more on having faith in others and a sense of responsibility.
Well said.
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Old 2006-06-15, 12:48 AM
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Re: Does poor ratio equate bad trader?

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So the fact that TTD doesent enforce ratios means that a poor ratio doesent equal a bad trader?

I dont get your reasoning behind that o_O
ohhh yeah..bring it too the lounge...

and you will hear all kinds of crazy shit....

...and only The Trader Police determine who is a bad trader...
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Old 2006-06-15, 12:50 AM
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Old 2006-06-15, 09:24 AM
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Re: Does poor ratio equate bad trader?

ain't that the truth...
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Old 2006-06-15, 01:59 PM
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Re: Does poor ratio equate bad trader?

IMHO, I don't think a bad ratio necessarily makes for a bad trader. People can sometimes be fair on one issue, and unfair in another. And I am glad that ratios are not enforced because I may let my ratio drop on occassion, only to make up for it later. But it seems to me that whether or not your sharing in other ways, there is no excuse for not getting it at least halfway.
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Old 2006-06-15, 05:41 PM
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Re: Does poor ratio equate bad trader?

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So the fact that TTD doesent enforce ratios means that a poor ratio doesent equal a bad trader?

I dont get your reasoning behind that o_O
Just like there is no rationale, other than your personal (flawed) opinion, for saying a low ratio automatically equals a bad trader.
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