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Old 2006-05-15, 01:22 AM
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Re: Are these lossy?

1993-05-27

lossy

same again
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1993-05-28

lossy

same again
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1993-06-19

lossy

bit of a higher bitrate used for the lossy encoding on this one
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1993-07-26

lossy, looks like the '74 shows (and most of the others) again
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Re: Are these lossy?

so unfortunately it looks like they're all positively lossy imo except 1985-03-06, which I'm not so sure about, either. looks like most of them came from the same person, too.

here are the flac samples of 1985-03-06, would appriciate some more input from others here if possible:
http://rapidshare.de/files/20491407/...mples.zip.html
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Re: Are these lossy?

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so unfortunately it looks like they're all positively lossy imo except 1985-03-06, which I'm not so sure about, either. looks like most of them came from the same person, too.

here are the flac samples of 1985-03-06, would appriciate some more input from others here if possible:
http://rapidshare.de/files/20491407/...mples.zip.html
Thanks a lot Five.

The person who sent me these also sent me 30 fine shows. So it's about the circulation pool, and not about him, as I know some other traders claimed to have some of these exact same shows...

Anyway... Thanks a lot for your efforts.

I'll immigrate to Cool edit pro and check other shows I mentioned with that program too. (I've sent you the ones that looked unclear in the EAC analysis; I have checked other shows with EAC already, I mean...)

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Old 2006-05-15, 05:46 AM
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I forgot about this one Five. If it's not a problem, if you can take a look at this one also, I'd really appreciate it.

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Old 2006-05-15, 05:55 AM
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Re: Are these lossy?

you're welcome, Kagan. I think I got a couple Cohen seeds from you at dime before so I am happy to help.

This last one is lossy as well, looks just like those '74 shows once again.
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you're welcome, Kagan. I think I got a couple Cohen seeds from you at dime before so I am happy to help.

This last one is lossy as well, looks just like those '74 shows once again.
Thanks a lot Five.

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Re: Are these lossy?

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1985-03-06

I'm not sure what to say about this one... the cutoff is very straight in the sa, but fa looks normal. sounds brittle and somewhat distorted but not really like an mp3. so I'd call this less than ideal, but lossless so far as I can ascertain (other opinions?)

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Television or other broadcast. The heavy banding around 15.75 is a video crossover frequency. Most analog broadcast signals have cutoffs around 15k and digital around 16k, unless it's Dolby Digtial which cuts around 20k. The brittle distortion is probably analog broadcast compression which generally happens twice in the chain, once in post and once at the satellite feed uplink.

So yes, less than ideal, but technically lossless.
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