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Re: BAD trader, Liar= Ragu420 Ragu421 whatever
You keep contradicting yourself though
![]() You agree with that, but then you disagree with it. By stating that a electronic trade is no different, than you are insinuating that anyone with a bad ratio is not a good snail mail trader. My whole point to arguing was Calvins insistence that because woody has a bad ratio that he is automatically assumed to be a bad snail mail trader. They are seperate instances, and there are hindrances sometimes which holds someone back from sharing to the 1:1, older torrents with a lack of leechers, slow upload, a wide variety of things. No one should be branded a bad snail mail trader because of their ratio, electronic is one thing, mail and actual discs is another. I have a shit ratio, but thats not going to stop me from fulfilling a snail mail trade or trying my hardest with my limitations to better my ratio (which was even worse a week ago ![]() No members have liked this post.
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Re: BAD trader, Liar= Ragu420 Ragu421 whatever
first I'd like to say that i had a great trading experience with Ragu.... i find it hard to believe that he would lie. Where are you buddy? what's your side of the story?
About the ratio thing, I too live in a small town with only one isp to choose from. I have a difficult time keeping my ratio just above 1.0, but i manage. Sometimes i just have to stop d/l for a while and seed. It's the only fair thing to do.
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Re: BAD trader, Liar= Ragu420 Ragu421 whatever
hi everbody
i just would like to trade period . my ratio is zero !! but i got great stuff just would like to trade instead of one or two email and then fade away !!!! just cause i don't have a website doesn't mean i don't have great stuff and can provide pleanty of titles upon request !!!!! so why not ask !!! rnkhrse112@ aol.com No members have liked this post.
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Re: BAD trader, Liar= Ragu420 Ragu421 whatever
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Snail mail trades are separate from electronic trades. Agreed. We both agree that it is important to trade 1 to 1 on snail mail trades. Electronic trades are still "trades" therefore they need to also try for 1:1 ratio. There is no difference in that a "trade" requires the two parties to be on equal terms. By your reasoning, for being electronicly defecient as you say your bandwidth is, than one would not have to honor snail mail trades because the post office is too far away....or likewise because they can't afford stamps/discs etc. So it would then be ok in your mind to not honor your part of the trade with someone for these types of defencies as well? That makes no sense. The fact of the matter is that EVERYBODY has faster dl speeds than ul speeds. That is why we have to monitor our ul/dl individually since there is no official rule on the matter. If everyone had poor ratios like your 0.3 then I guarantee you this site would not still be around. Period. FWIW, my internet is 500 kbps dl and 35 to 40 kbps ul. That doesn't mean that I should have a ul/dl ratio of 40/500, or 0.08. It all comes down to giving back what you receive--whether for snail mail or electronicly, they are both "trades". I think that should be clear now...at least to everybody but skodechoker! ![]()
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"dance to Jah music, dance....forget your sorrows and dance...forget your troubles and dance....forget your sickness and dance....forget your weakness and dance..." ~B.Marley "If your share ratio is less than 1.0, then please offer b&ps and/or freebies to give back to the TTD community" ~Chachi No members have liked this post.
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Re: BAD trader, Liar= Ragu420 Ragu421 whatever
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"dance to Jah music, dance....forget your sorrows and dance...forget your troubles and dance....forget your sickness and dance....forget your weakness and dance..." ~B.Marley "If your share ratio is less than 1.0, then please offer b&ps and/or freebies to give back to the TTD community" ~Chachi No members have liked this post.
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Re: BAD trader, Liar= Ragu420 Ragu421 whatever
@ chachi...
HEAR HEAR No members have liked this post.
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1. hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. He's taking it personally?!?!? Who's been defending woody with a post a minute, when he's not spoken once in a reply himself?!? 2. Wrong. No members have liked this post.
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Re: BAD trader, Liar= Ragu420 Ragu421 whatever
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1. I'm not "defending" woody, for lack of a better word. I do believe that every side is entitled to the benefit of the doubt in regards to issues like this until both sides are fully heard. Woody has done nothing for me to believe he's lying. Ragu has neither but neither of them have said anything else as of yet. 2. How is it wrong? I have a poor ratio, but look at my track record for snailmail trades, while Im a "noob" here, Ive never had a bad trade snail mail wise here or anywhere. So Im perfect on snail mail, ratio wise its not spectacular through.no.fault.of.my.own. I also do B&Ps, vines and trade with virtually anyone as per the rules of this site suggest if you cant via the torrents. Get your head out of your ass calvin. No members have liked this post.
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Re: Does poor ratio equate bad trader?
Just wanted to add my two cents here as a user, not an Admin or a Mod. I've talked to many users who have "bad" ratios and many or them (not all by any means) do realize that they cannot keep their ratios up (for various reasons) and they do many other very useful things like Vine the shows or B&P them or just trade them. There are some of us, like me, who don't have the time for trades or b&ps or starting vines and so we just leave our bt windows open for as long as possible. It is actually impossible for everyone on this site to have a ratio of 1:1 when there are a bunch of people that have a ratio over 1:1.
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Re: Does poor ratio equate bad trader?
I think i would lose my hard on for Chachi if he ever stopped acting like a little bitch. Here's to that hot little Bitch.
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Re: Does poor ratio equate bad trader?
lynne i am in almost the same situation, my husband doens't want our address going out. I trade with limited people.
on a side note... anyone remember cathy liebchen on STG? I don't think they had ratios on STG (until the bitter end) but I remember her seeding about half the stuff on the vines. I never knew her share ratio, personally it wouldn't make a difference. I think you show the kind of person you are by your actions on here. Its more than just your share ratio, more than just what you seed, vine or b&p. It's the whole package. Personally, i don't know ragu but I liked the fact that he asked for opinions without naming names, trying to find out the right thing to do. This woody person came out name calling and admitting that he was the person who sent the stuff to him, all with a bad attitude. The actions by the people involved would definitely have a bearing on who I dealt with in a trade, not just a share ratio. No members have liked this post.
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Cathy Liebchen ...I often wonder what became of her Judy...man she had the wealth of a phenomenal collection and shared it so freely !! No members have liked this post.
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And thanks for the kudos Chachi!
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Torrenting however is not trading shows, it is sharing them. When you seed a show, you do so because you want to share the fun with others, with no direct expectations involved. You don't seed a torrent expecting every single user that downloads your show to seed exactly / at least one other show. Of course you hope so, but it's not an obligation as with a trade. The live music trading trackers only work if the majority of people are into the sharing philosophy, i.e. giving without expecting anything (directly) in return. You just gotta have faith that in the end you'll end up with the shows you're interested in because you know that other people also share what they have without any expectations. So IMHO torrents are not only different from snail mail trades in a technical sense, but also in the way sharing via BT depends much more on having faith in others and a sense of responsibility. No members have liked this post.
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pretty sure she still has her list up on etree. Probably the best way to contact her. Think she was in Georgia. I can't remember how many of her vines I was on, but I know if it wasn't for her I wouldn't have a lot of the shows I dearly treasure. Truly a wonderful, selfless person ![]() No members have liked this post.
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