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Old 2005-02-14, 04:45 PM
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Using BitTorrant to Hack??

Is this possible???
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Old 2005-02-14, 05:10 PM
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Re: Using BitTorrant to Hack??

It is my understanding that there would have to be something in the code of your client for an attack to be made this way. One in a Billion chance, and in the unlikely event you would probably see a thread about it very quickly.
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Old 2005-02-14, 05:36 PM
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Re: Using BitTorrant to Hack??

I would imagine that! So it would be far-fetched that someone can use my BT client to be able to enter my office network and delete files!
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Old 2005-02-14, 06:02 PM
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Re: Using BitTorrant to Hack??

I'm no programmer but I've seen this topic come up several times and the techsperts unanimously agree that bt is safe.

hopefully somebody will stop by and post a more detailed explanation than I'm capable of!
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Old 2005-02-15, 07:11 AM
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Re: Using BitTorrant to Hack??

I'm not really qualified to comment, but I'll say that I have heard from people who's opinions I respect that opening ports and using BT software is quite safe.
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Old 2005-02-15, 02:10 PM
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Re: Using BitTorrant to Hack??

Perfectly safe you say? BitTorrent seems to have hacked my computer pretty bad. I started running it 18 months ago and in that time it has managed to flood my harddrive with SHN and FLAC files.
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Old 2005-02-16, 10:58 AM
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Re: Using BitTorrant to Hack??

Nothing is 100% safe but like Five said, there would have to be something in the client. And considering how vocal the BT world is I think the second an exploit came out in one of the BT clients everyone would know about it.

It would also be a good idea to stick with the more well used clients.
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Old 2005-02-16, 11:42 AM
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Re: Using BitTorrant to Hack??

Just BT clients officially endorsed by STG, R-O and TTD
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Old 2005-02-16, 12:17 PM
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Re: Using BitTorrant to Hack??

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Just BT clients officially endorsed by STG, R-O and TTD

Also becarefull where you get the cleints from. There was a site that was hosting a version of Shadows that was full of spyware
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Old 2005-02-16, 12:39 PM
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Re: Using BitTorrant to Hack??

I have a question about this. By opening up ports 6881-6999 in your firewall, aren't you becoming more vulnerable to attack? I understand that all internet activity occurs through open ports, but I am a little confused here.

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Old 2005-02-16, 02:55 PM
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Re: Using BitTorrant to Hack??

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I have a question about this. By opening up ports 6881-6999 in your firewall, aren't you becoming more vulnerable to attack? I understand that all internet activity occurs through open ports, but I am a little confused here.

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Only if you have a program on your machine that is listening on those ports and it is either malicious or has some nasty vulnerabilities. Just having ports open by itself should not be a problem.
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Old 2005-02-16, 03:26 PM
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Re: Using BitTorrant to Hack??

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Only if you have a program on your machine that is listening on those ports and it is either malicious or has some nasty vulnerabilities. Just having ports open by itself should not be a problem.
Pardon my stupidity, but why then have a firewall in the first place?

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Old 2005-02-16, 03:46 PM
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Re: Using BitTorrant to Hack??

You're right, irish. It's not simply a matter of whether a program is listening to a particular port that determines vulnerability. Opening ports does make you more vulnerable to attacks regardless of whether a particular program is using that port. But the only way to assure absolute security from attack via the net is to not be connected to the net.
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Old 2005-02-17, 06:48 PM
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Re: Using BitTorrant to Hack??

gotta be careful that you are downloading your clients from official channels...there are some hacked versions of bittorrent clients out there which contain evilware...first client i ever downloaded contained a nasty keystroke logger.
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Old 2005-02-17, 08:52 PM
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Re: Using BitTorrant to Hack??

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Pardon my stupidity, but why then have a firewall in the first place?

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That's not a stupid question.

I didn't mean to imply that you can just open up all of your ports and not worry about being hacked. The question was about the standard Bittorrent ports 6881-6999. But there are many "Well Known" system ports that should be protected by a firewall. In this case, the operating system and its related utilities are listening on these ports.

Also, a firewall can help detect and prevent outbound data traffic that might be generated by spyware running on your machine.
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