What's with Hungercity again?

Now if you only had Carly Simon's legs...,

[mike1061]

Originally Posted by direwolf-pgh

what material was this? perhaps it can be offered here without the threat of extortion
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A lot of old TV shows. Dime would have a problem with because of lip singing. Does anybody know how this sites rules are for that?
Shingdig, Where the action is, Night something. Beat club, I can't remember them all.
Thanks
Mike

[direwolf-pgh]

I love those old tv shows too. Ready, Steady, Go etc..
general rule of thumb: if you can buy it / you cannot seed it

video w/lip sync wouldn't be an issue here.

[nutzrocker]

That's the general rule on most sensible trackers, if you can't buy it legally, It's OK to go

Originally Posted by direwolf-pgh

video w/lip sync wouldn't be an issue here.

Even though they would be lip syncing to officially available audio?

[direwolf-pgh]

I don't believe it would be an issue. Many serious/knowledgeable collectors here ~ share out the love. if for some reason it gets pulled don't let that stuff bother you.

[CAF]

Originally Posted by daddyray

(but someone who is self focused might think that was about them. )

Wait - you mean it's not?

[CAF]

Originally Posted by direwolf-pgh

sites offering 'rewards for donations'. blatant red flag

I don't think so. A lot of sites I visit have similar incentives to get donations - get 10 GB added to your upload stats for a $10 donation, or something similar. As long as it's transparent I don't see a problem.

I will definitely miss their unique reward system of "karma points" for long-term seeding of torrents, with X number of GB added to your upload stats after Y hours of seeding. It helped to maintain a healthy ratio, and ensured most torrents stayed seeded.

Originally Posted by direwolf-pgh

I don't believe it would be an issue. Many serious/knowledgeable collectors here ~ share out the love. if for some reason it gets pulled don't let that stuff bother you.

Thanks for the clarification.

[direwolf-pgh]

Originally Posted by CAF

I don't think so. A lot of sites I visit have similar incentives to get donations - get 10 GB added to your upload stats for a $10 donation, or something similar. As long as it's transparent I don't see a problem.

no question that is an interesting topic to explore.

it used to be I'd mail you my list and you'd mail me your list. then we'd work out a tape trade. same tapes / same quantity .. and no high-speed dubbing. right?
but things have certainly changed. this exchange of cash for 'online perks' doesn't really fit the original trader vibe - its smacks more of a business transaction for intangible incentives.

it gets tricky. that's my 2¢

[mooncusser]

ye olde Bootcity/Tapecity went away, too, and the Earth is still spinning

donations are one thing, but funds in exchange for ratio/points/whatever isn't really a donation - 'tis a purchase

the "karmapoints" thing things is very do-able
gain points simply for seeding which can be turned in for upload credit
(not certain about specifics, but methinks it's an available feature or a plugin for vbulletin....)

[vladsmythe]

I consider a donation to this site as I consider a Christmas tip for my trash collector, and my recycle guy. I don't ask for anything except the right address to send cash. I trust it goes to a good cause, but I don't lose sleep over it. I don't ever recall TTD asking, and the whole process seems very transparent here. I think that's how it should be. I appreciate this place for giving me a venue to share my videos. For that, I donate.

Originally Posted by direwolf-pgh

no question that is an interesting topic to explore.

it used to be I'd mail you my list and you'd mail me your list. then we'd work out a tape trade. same tapes / same quantity .. and no high-speed dubbing. right?
but things have certainly changed. this exchange of cash for 'online perks' doesn't really fit the original trader vibe - its smacks more of a business transaction for intangible incentives.

it gets tricky. that's my 2¢

I've been thinking a lot about the gigs for cash thing — which is a transaction, not a donation — and the one thing that jumped out of me is that there are a lot of charities that give you token perks for donating, and the quality and quantity of the perks was commisserate to the amount donated (I'm thinking of PBS pledge drives in particular: donate $10, get a sticker; donate $1000, get the complete Red Dwarf on VHS).

A couple of complications with the system that I saw was the fact that people whose ratios were in the gutter at HC were encouraged to buy their way out the shit-gif; it also appeared that there were people who would join, drop a few hundred bucks, and then leech through their giant purchased ratio without seeding a kilobyte.

If there were a reincation of HC, it would be cool to offer some kind of perk to those who donated that could not be construed as quid pro quo. What that would be, I have no idea.

[nutzrocker]

Up to now I did not see anything sinister about the ratio for donations system which I always looked at more as a gift for your donation rather than just taking the donation for nothing.

The pathetic soap opera that has become HC over the last couple of years and reading many of the comments written here on the subject of cash for ratio has got me looking at the subject from a different angle.

To be honest I'm torn between opinions. I can still see good points but like so many good things in this world it is open to abuse and can be used by abusers as a get out of jail free card.

I could say much about HC but I think I've previously said all That was needed. It's been a very upsetting experience watching someone press the self destruct button on something you've put years of work into. A place you've made many friends and a place that is like a second home. Now all that remains is to sit back and watch it all go up in smoke.

[mike1061]

To me, the donation for GBs never bothered me at all. In fact it helped a little back when I had slower internet speeds. I doubt people could actuly buy there way out of seeding. You don't get that much of a change in your ratio.
No it doesn't fit the trader vibe, but bit torrenting doesn't either.
Thanks
Mike