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Old 2007-07-06, 03:23 AM
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Question Nero turns my disks into coasters :(

Everytime I try to burn something the data verification in Nero fails. Could my DVD burner be to blame? Its a Memorex DVD16+/-DL4RWID2 internal burner. If it is the burner, what is the best DVD burner out there?
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Old 2007-07-06, 04:15 AM
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Re: Nero turns my disks into coasters :(

Try a different disc brand & burning software 1st

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Old 2007-07-06, 11:37 AM
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Re: Nero turns my disks into coasters :(

^what he said

eg you could test by burning an audio cd using EAC
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Old 2007-07-06, 11:52 AM
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Re: Nero turns my disks into coasters :(

alright cool, what other software is good? also im using prodisc so it should be fine they have 85-95 percent accuracy i mean everything i tried burning failed memorex cdrs, tdk (shitty ones), prodisc, but the memorex cdrs didnt use to fail so its weird.
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Old 2007-07-06, 04:32 PM
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Re: Nero turns my disks into coasters :(

what we're saying is try any other program you have other than nero to see if it is a software issue. we realize you've tried different kinds of cdrs, now it is time to try different software. If changing the media and changing the software doesn't help then you can conclude that it is your dvd burner that is the problem.
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Re: Nero turns my disks into coasters :(

If your burner is the problem, I would buy a Plextor, Lite-On, or Pioneer dual layer DVD burner from www.newegg.com
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Old 2007-07-06, 06:46 PM
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Re: Nero turns my disks into coasters :(

Check the firmware on your burner. There might be an upgrade available.
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Re: Nero turns my disks into coasters :(

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Check the firmware on your burner. There might be an upgrade available.
Nope...irrelevent.
If it worked ok to start with using the same discs then Firmware upgrade is not the issue.
Its either PC ,proggy to burn or Burner.

You may want to ..
Start>control Panel>System>Hardware>Device Manager...
Now find the burner and un-install.
Then Re-boot & let Windows plug & play job pick it up again.

If that fails......buy a good fair priced Dual Layer Multi +&- burner

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Old 2007-07-07, 08:47 AM
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Re: Nero turns my disks into coasters :(

Depending on how much you burn, and how old the burner is you may want a new drive. I fried my pioneer, tried all the above mentioned fixes. Finally bought a sony for $80 and it's spankin' now. Don't do fast burns either. For me, dvd @4x cd@8x works fine. Good luck, I know your pain.
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Old 2007-07-07, 09:29 AM
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Re: Nero turns my disks into coasters :(

in relation to this just wanna ask what dvd/cdr brands can anyone suggest to be all efficient. thanks'

(my burner hates philips i mean it has errors most of the time compare to other brands i use)
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Re: Nero turns my disks into coasters :(

Taiyo Yuden, the only way to go

ya might wanna check out these threads/sites as well:
http://www.thetradersden.org/forums/...ad.php?t=12729
http://www.digitalfaq.com/media/dvdmedia.htm
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Re: Nero turns my disks into coasters :(

I was having a lot of problems using Nero 7 to burn cds from FLAC files so I switched to BURRRN (freeware) which IMO works much better. If your FLAC files are properly tagged all of the CD Text info will come up automatically- Artist name, album name and track names.

I'm not sure if Nero decompresses the FLAC files first or on the fly, but BURRRN uses a temporary folder to first decompress all of the FLAC files, so that any subsequent burns go much faster.

I'm not sure if this was already mentioned but for your tests keep the CPU activity to a minimum and also burn at a slower speed.

BURRRN homepage:

http://www.burrrn.net/

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Old 2007-07-08, 06:37 PM
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Re: Nero turns my disks into coasters :(

Nero 6 decompresses on the fly, but decompression happens a HELL of alot faster than the burn does. Additionaly, for audio, It's been determines that it's best to burn CD media at 16X speed, and that for the most accurate data burns, it is best to not exceed 32X.

As for media, Taiyo Yuden is absolutely the best media available anywhere on the planet, and is a de facto standard against which all others are compared. In the USA, the only truely certified distributor of TY media is www.rima.com, but www.supermediastore.com and www.shop4tech.com are sometimes slightly less money, and also carry TY seconds, refered to as, "Value Line," media that is STILL better than anyone elses stuff. A little tip. You can always identify TY CD-R media easily because thery're the only disks that have frosted center hub areas. All others have crystal clear hubs. This tip does NOT hold true of DVD R media.

For less expensive "working copies" ritek CD-R is pretty good quality media, and it pains me to say that because I've boycotted Ritek for selling substandard DVD media to unsuspecting buyers as something it's not. (IE selling media codes that were previously, by Ritek's own admition, sutible for burning at 4X as 8X media, and other crappy business practices.

Prodisk media is among the least consistant and least dependable media's available.

CMC CD-R media is also of fairly decent quality, on par with Ritek's stuff. Fine for working copies. If it's a backup copy you're closeting for long term archiving and need it to last a long long time, DEFINATELY ONLY depend on TY.

There are only a dozen or so actual CD manufacturing plants. Most brand names are actualy NOT manufactured by that company. (IE Fuji, some Sony is made BY Sony, much is not, Memorex uses lots of different manufacturers and produces none of it's own stuyff, ect.) So you can't just go by the name on the outside of the cake-box or jewel cases.

CD Freaks is one of the best places to learn about CD-R and DVD±R media, as well as hardware (CD DVD writers) of every manufacturer, and the quality of the disks they write. For specific information about different CD-R media types and who's names they're marketed under, follow THIS link.

I'm not a professional or anything, but have done ALOT of research on this topic over the course of the past several years, and am happy to help out in any way I can. If I can't answer your question, I can and WILL find someone who can, so don't hesitate to PM me, as I don't always follow threads closely.

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