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Old 2005-05-30, 10:15 AM
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Re: Spotting Lossy Sources--links inside

a SA/FA forum

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so now people could use more informative thread titles, that others with the same show could spot these easier.
something like:

sp1996-05-15 Brixton Academy, London, England (ttd)
sp1996-05-15 Brixton Academy, London, England (dime)
sp1996-05-15 Brixton Academy, London, England (snail mail trade)
or even
sp1996-05-15

anyway, nice improvement
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Re: Spotting Lossy Sources--links inside

Here's another link that many people should find useful:
http://wiki.etree.org/index.php?page=SourceAnalysis

There's some discussion and links there about why you don't want to use True Audio / aucdtect for this kind of thing.

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Re: Spotting Lossy Sources--links inside

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ffooky has shown me that Audition is sometimes even a little better than analfreq for FA, and yes CEP/Audition is still the best for SA.
I think this may be a typo...Audacity does the FA thang very nicely.

Adobe don't want to let me use Audition on my computer
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Maybe cool edit 96?

http://www.threechords.com/hammerhea..._edit_96.shtml
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There is a flac plugin for Cool edit available here:

http://www.vuplayer.com/other.php
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Old 2005-08-07, 05:52 AM
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I think this may be a typo...Audacity does the FA thang very nicely.

Adobe don't want to let me use Audition on my computer
you are correct, I meant to say Audacity I fixed to typeo to avoid confusion.

thanks range_hood for posting the link to the FLAC filter. I use that all the time. Monkey's Audio also comes with a CEP/Audition filter, when you install it you can find APE.flt in the Monkey's Audio\Tools folder. Just copy that over to the main CEP/Audition folder (you'll know it's the right folder because you'll see other .flt files there). With these filters you can read and write FLAC and APE directly into/out of CEP/Audition. There is no SHN filter I've ever been able to find. There is one for wavpack, tho.

There are a whole series of progs leading up to Adobe Auditon 1.5 (current as of this post). They're all very similar. I believe the original is CE96, then came CE2000, then CEPv1.x (last 1.x version was 1.2a) followed by v2.0 and the last was v2.1. Then Adobe bought Syntrillium and put out Adobe Audition 1.0 which was a couple builds up but pretty much CEPv2.1 with different branding. Audition 1.5 has some real development put into it, the marquee tool being the most useful and significant. Now you can actually draw boxes on spectograms and process only the contents which is a lot more useful than it might seem. I'm wondering if they're going to begin slowly adding all the photoshop tools over time They also now have VST support but its nowhere near as good as most of the wrappers/adapters made by others. I believe spinaudio.com still offers an excellent freeware one but best of all is ffx-4 which does VST>DX and also fx chains. ffx-4 is also available for free as a winamp plugin, giving full DX/VST capabilities to that player, one of the big reasons I still use that prog which has recently become somewhat unpopular.
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Now you can actually draw boxes on spectograms and process only the contents which is a lot more useful than it might seem.
Do you mean you can draw, say lineage info in f.e. the high frequencies?
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Do you mean you can draw, say lineage info in f.e. the high frequencies?


if you want to trick people into thinking mp3 sourced stuff is not mp3 do what the zappateers do. mix in tape noise there are programs that will even do it for you also they use exciters ! try ozone
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Do you mean you can draw, say lineage info in f.e. the high frequencies?
you could actually write words, yes. you would have to draw the letters one rectangle at a time, of course. it's more useful for times when you only want to hit a certain frequency range with something like "fill single click now" whereas otherwise you would be processing higher and lower frequencies than you want/need to.
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wtf?

where am I? Where is this: http://www.thetradersden.org/forums/...ead.php?t=4288

Where are all those images that Five linked to in this thread?
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if you want to trick people into thinking mp3 sourced stuff is not mp3 do what the zappateers do. mix in tape noise there are programs that will even do it for you also they use exciters ! try ozone
At least there is a good ninja barb in this old thread...Ahhh the good old days!
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wtf?

where am I? Where is this: http://www.thetradersden.org/forums/...ead.php?t=4288

Where are all those images that Five linked to in this thread?
I fixed the links to threads in the bottom post. Are those what you are talking about?
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