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Old 2005-08-06, 10:59 PM
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Re: DVD Trading Burning?

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Old 2005-08-06, 11:16 PM
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Re: DVD Trading Burning?

so, I just burn a video DVD for both then, correct?
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Old 2005-08-06, 11:17 PM
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Re: if your going to require checksums

when it asks you what folder, select the "parent" folder (the one with the VIDEO_TS inside it). This way, you can run the .md5 from outside the VIDEO_TS folder because the checksums will have VIDEO_TS/ in front of them. anyhow, you should be able to get the checksums with the info in this thread, if not just post here.
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Old 2005-08-07, 12:24 AM
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Old 2005-08-07, 01:17 AM
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Re: DVD Trading Burning?

You can burn it the same no problem. But if you downloaded it off lets say TTD you have to burn just the Video_ts foler and Audio_ts folder without the text file to have it play in a stand alone dvd player
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Old 2005-08-07, 01:26 AM
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Re: DVD Trading Burning?

and not the md5 and the text files, right?

that's how I do it when I burn em to play in my home DVD player, but then I read in a thread about you should burn them differently when you trade them, which I had never heard of, so I figured I'd better ask

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Old 2005-08-07, 04:26 AM
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Old 2005-08-07, 04:40 AM
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Re: if your going to require checksums

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Easiest way is if mkw software is installed.
Right click the folder and select "generate md5 signatures"
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Old 2005-08-07, 04:42 AM
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Re: DVD Trading Burning?

Yea some people will want you to burn them the text file and md5's, so you are pretty much burning them a data disc via DVD. Most DVD traders dont require this, so I wouldnt fret about it too much.


I just always make sure that the shows I send out play and are error free.
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Old 2005-08-07, 04:43 AM
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Re: DVD Trading Burning?

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and not the md5 and the text files, right?


right.



You can sometimes burn them as an ISO as well
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Old 2005-08-07, 08:13 AM
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Re: DVD Trading Burning?

i'ma go ahead and disagree [no offense ya'll]...here's why--

alot of traders, and most serious collectors, want the text files and *definitely* the checksum for a DVD...its the same as when shn traders used to not care about getting a md5, but now almost everyone requires it...plus, despite what people think, burning a DVD-Video and then re-extracting it to trade *can* lead to generational loss, as small artifacts/bits/etc can be lost/added/moved in the process...just like trading Audio CDr's and having to re-extract with EAC. time has proven it's better kept in lossless data format.

plus, we're only talking about 30 or 40 cents here for the second disc, so i recommend trading and archiving in "data disc" format. FWIW, some standalones will actually play a data disc [DVD-ISO], you just have to make sure there is:
--Video_TS folder [with the appropriate video files from the torrent--.ifo, .bup, .vob]
--Audio_TS folder [empty]
--Extras_TS folder [put all the checksums, text files, artwork, etc. in here]

if yer standalone won't play a disc like this, then i personally recommend archiving it as a data disc, and burning a DVD-Video disc for personal watching.
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Old 2005-08-07, 08:15 AM
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Re: DVD Trading Burning?

oh, and a number of programs will actually change the .bup or .ifo files when burning as a DVD-Video disc, so the checksum won't pass...never had this happen with a data disc tho
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Old 2005-08-07, 08:17 AM
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Re: if your going to require checksums

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So if I'm making a DVD of my last public stripping performance...
Will you be torrenting any of these shows?
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Old 2005-08-07, 11:25 AM
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Re: DVD Trading Burning?

Interesting. I never heard of any degradation from extracting a disc burned as video. Now what if you made an image of the whole disc and copied it? Trade DVDs are obviously small enough to do this with so you really don't need to rip it then burn it. Well I usually do since I won't archive it without an md5 and txt file with all info on it and too many times it doesn't come with anything like this.
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Yea some people will want you to burn them the text file and md5's, so you are pretty much burning them a data disc via DVD. Most DVD traders dont require this, so I wouldnt fret about it too much.
Sorry Toto but I couldn't disagree with you more. I think it's imperative that you trade with md5 and txt. Same as an "audio" show, it lets you know you have the disc in it's original state and tells you the source and lineage, which is very important. That's why they're required on this site for uploads. Unfortunately a lot of people don't include this stuff. Then when I archive a DVD I have to go look up the info and try to find out where it came from, how was it transferred etc... what a waste of time. It's just like in any situation there's going to be people who are sticklers for things to be done to a certain standard and include all the pertinent info and there's going to be people who are slack and don't care. Like the difference between The Trader's Den and Dime. It's about how much you care about quality.

And yes, as Aaron said, although he said some and I'll bump it up to most standalone players will play the disc with the extras outside of it. Just make sure yours does first and if you're trading ask the person if they know if theirs does or not.

Oh and last but not least... NEVER be sorry for asking a question about how to do things. Be proud that you care about it!
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Old 2005-08-07, 11:40 AM
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Re: if your going to require checksums

I would LOVE to! But I use officially released music for my routine so... oh well.



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