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Old 2008-09-20, 07:15 AM
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VLC and MPC crashed - I use Haali Media Spliter (Matroska); tsMuxer (mux to ts or m2ts for BD): SPS picture order 2 not supported ; Canopus Pro Coder may convert it to SD.
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Old 2008-09-20, 08:03 AM
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Re: What about High Definition streams?

How do I find out what is being used eactly to decode the file? Also, did it not play the file, crash, or what? MPC is the only program that will play my 1080i files, all other programs crash. I have Nero 7 Ultra 7, and PowerDVD 7.2along with Matrostoska installed. I have no preference set in MPC for decoding this file. It also takes at least a dual core processor or a single core with a video card that has a good GPU itself. I may have said that wrong, because I am rather hardware illiterate.

As for the file being "invalid" I am not sure what is up with that one. I used that program to check out the original files out of the camera, those were "invalid" as well. I have no idea what that program is looking for in terms of being "valid". I have



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File size : 289 MiB
PlayTime : 3mn 17s
Bit rate : 12.3 Mbps
StreamSize/String : 127 KiB
Encoded date : UTC 2008-06-04 15:28:37
Tagged date : UTC 2008-06-04 15:28:37

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Codec profile : [email protected]
Codec settings, CABAC : No
Codec_Settings_RefFrames : 2
PlayTime : 3mn 17s
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Language : English
Encoded date : UTC 2008-06-05 02:02:33
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Old 2008-09-20, 10:07 AM
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Re: What about High Definition streams?

If you installed software for your camera it could add a codec which supports the container better than Matroska. Usually Haali plays anything, so I don't know what may cause the error.

You can check installed codecs with GSpot: Tables > Video Codecs. I have Microsoft, and ~ISOMP4 (isom: MP4 Base Media v1 [IS0 14496-12:2003]) - I have no idea what is it Anyway, Haali takes control over the container when played by MPC.

Edit: from the icon of the file properties I see that you decoder is part of Quicktime. If i try to open the file in it I get Error: -50 an unknown error occured. Doh... I wish to be more friendly
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Old 2008-09-20, 10:16 AM
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Re: What about High Definition streams?

Sullen, FWIW Plex can play your file so I'm guessing that XBMC could also handle it.
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Old 2008-09-20, 02:22 PM
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Re: What about High Definition streams?

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If you installed software for your camera it could add a codec which supports the container better than Matroska. Usually Haali plays anything, so I don't know what may cause the error.

You can check installed codecs with GSpot: Tables > Video Codecs. I have Microsoft, and ~ISOMP4 (isom: MP4 Base Media v1 [IS0 14496-12:2003]) - I have no idea what is it Anyway, Haali takes control over the container when played by MPC.

Edit: from the icon of the file properties I see that you decoder is part of Quicktime. If i try to open the file in it I get Error: -50 an unknown error occured. Doh... I wish to be more friendly
Let me correct myself, when I play it with MPC it is using Haali as you said. As of the Quicktime Icon, that was just associated with the file last time I installed Quicktime. I don't like Quicktime, but it automatically associated the .MP4 extension to the Quicktime player, it has nothing to do with how the file is being played.

I figured it out, it's using the Cyberlink H.264/AVC Decoder (PDVD 7.x). I found it under Play > Filters.
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Old 2008-09-21, 02:26 PM
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Re: What about High Definition streams?

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Chew on this....Right Click and Save As....

http://home.comcast.net/~simms3/DCFC...Dark-1080i.mp4

It's 288mb for 3min 17sec.
Suggested player is MPC as you can change the audio from the default synced external audio or the camera audio.
On the Mac, QuickTime 7.1 and VLC8 do not play this file
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Old 2008-09-21, 02:39 PM
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Re: What about High Definition streams?

How Matroska container works on Mac?
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Old 2008-09-21, 08:22 PM
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Re: What about High Definition streams?

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How Matroska container works on Mac?
With QuickTime and Perian: Pretty spotty and takes a long time to prepare to actually play, if indeed a file will.

VLC O.8.6 was pretty good most of the time but the OS X release of 0.9.2 has been very buggy and 0.9.3 can't come quickly enough.

Plex/OSXBMC handle MKV extremely well. UI takes a lot of getting used to and there are stability issues but the file handling itself is excellent.
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Old 2008-10-10, 01:18 PM
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Re: What about High Definition streams?

Are there HD shows up now on TTD? If so, how do you find them? Please excuse my ignorance.
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Old 2008-10-10, 01:33 PM
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Re: What about High Definition streams?

^ Not yet. There are videos sourced from HD but transcoded to DVD.
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Re: What about High Definition streams?



does anyone here have experience streaming HD content via a HDMI (out) Video Card direct to their HDTV ??

I'm looking at video cards for this task & reading conflicting/confusing information. solid recommendations needed. thanks
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Old 2008-11-03, 07:08 AM
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Re: What about High Definition streams?

Any card that is able to output full HD resolution (1920x1080p).
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Old 2008-11-03, 07:21 AM
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Re: What about High Definition streams?

allow me to rephase the question:

has anyone tried any of the new HDMI video cards that are HDCP compliant.

they offer 1080p + 5.1 audio..etc..etc.

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Old 2008-11-03, 08:09 AM
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Re: What about High Definition streams?

I've "streamed" blu-rays to my 24" monitor that is hdcp compliant via hdmi (dvi also fwiw). That's the same thing right? My card is pretty cheap and I haven't noticed any issues. Never to a TV yet but I can't imagine it would be an issue. What is the conflicting info. you are seeing? Are you questioning whether it is worth having an HD TV without HDCP DVI?
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Old 2008-11-03, 08:56 AM
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I've "streamed" blu-rays to my 24" monitor that is hdcp compliant via hdmi (dvi also fwiw). That's the same thing right? My card is pretty cheap and I haven't noticed any issues. Never to a TV yet but I can't imagine it would be an issue. What is the conflicting info. you are seeing? Are you questioning whether it is worth having an HD TV without HDCP DVI?
I was curious if anyone could recommend (make/model) a 'tested out' HDMI (out) video card.
I've read that some were choppy in blu ray playback - rejected by the HDCP..etc..etc.
a video card HDMI 1.3 compliant connection is what I'm after/curious about. (as an alternative to a blu ray/upscale standalone player)
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