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View Poll Results: Should we ban mindless leechers? | |||
Yes, If their share ratio is less than 1.0 |
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27 | 4.04% |
Yes, If their share ratio is less than 0.75 |
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29 | 4.33% |
Yes, If their share ratio is less than 0.50 |
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131 | 19.58% |
Yes, If their share ratio is less than 0.25 |
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158 | 23.62% |
No, not under any circumstances. Let karma take over! |
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201 | 30.04% |
Give them a warning and allow them to make up for their wrongdoing by ul'ing constantly. |
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176 | 26.31% |
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 669. You may not vote on this poll |
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Instant gratification does not always equate to laziness. The internet has given all of us the ability to get some things quickly, be it shows, information, airline tickets, porn, or casual encounters with strangers ![]() Yes, some will always exploit that. But stating that as a whole bit torrent is not good because of those few. I just don't understand. I see plenty of ratios on bt sites that show there are still people that give very generously, and kind enough to explain it to newbies in a way that is not self-righteous or attacking them. I also can't grasp how someone can say that this medium for trading/exchanging is bad. I used to go through a boatload of bubble mailers, postage, and in essence a lot of resources (postal workers salaries, gas, vehicles, CDR's, sometimes planes I imagine) just to get a nice set of SHN's to someone on the east coast or out of the country. Now, I can serve them and access them in a much more eco friendly way IMO. Quote:
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I think it actually has brought the hobby of taping to a whole new level. From access to information about equipment to hints/tricks for getting the best out of whatever gear you have. We have a whole sub-forum here dedicated to the hobby of taping. I have seen quite a few people post from their initial questions about equipment, taping, seeding all the way through purchasing the equipment and then eventually posting their first show and watching them get better, posting more shows, and love their new hobby. No members have liked this post.
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Re: Should we ban thoughtless leechers?
Excellent post Bill.
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I prefer his posts about undies
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That makes maybe 3 out of 1600.
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thanks BK that's better
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----------------- You talk the talk, but have you ever walked the walk? Still, after all that -- it just doesn't seem that anything ever got you to go out and make any new recordings to add to the trade pool.......
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The whole thread is opinion, captain obvious
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Correct, opinions are like assholes....everybody's got one.
However when you share your opinion on "hoarding" and then just as quickly admit that you refuse to even try to make any recordings, then in my opinion, your credibility got flushed down the crapper, in reference to this hobby. People who mouth off about "Hoarding" and and also refuse to ever contribute to the trade pool should have no right to mouth off. You wanna talk the talk, but you refuse to walk the walk? Are you really serious? What makes you think you deserve to partake of The Little Red Hen's wheat, when you refuse to help harvest, threshing, milling, or baking the bread? Quote:
Maybe you should learn to take what's offered without demanding anything... instead of rationalizing a truckload of manure there, Major Pain. If you want to make any noise about "hoarding", then maybe first you need to consider learning to try to give something back. Stop dancing for ONE show and get proactive toward "YOUR" community. Or like many tapers already have done....you just might consider paying it forward....sound like a plan? Oh, and I do understand "sharing", but I also see you sharing your hypocracy here. Or, hey, consider refraining from ever making remarks about "hoarding" when you absolutely refuse to do anything but take. And Bill, I like you, really.....people talk bad about you, but I like you. ![]()
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![]() Including my contempt on this issue, OK? Your greed is showing through again, Bill..... Quote:
Maybe that's what's the problem, could it be that you don't know how to mind your business even after you're told to go away. Or maybe you could have shaken something loose, IF you had something unique to offer in return, something you taped??? I guess you'll never know, huh? Quote:
This taper thinks you're just a parasite, with the attitude you're exhibiting. I'm sure I ain't the only one to feel like that. Quote:
What I see is that the bus left and you didn't make it. Personally, the disdain I feel toward this sort of mindset will preclude me from ever listening to that Grateful Dead crap again. Best of luck to you, but anything I might have taped of those snoozers is at the bottom of the list when it comes to offering anything. However, as I said many times previously, I trade... And the people I've traded with aren't interested in that mindless noodling either. Sorry (no I not really, I just don't care.) Quote:
There was a reason STG died the death, and a very, very, very, VERY large percentage of the TTD couldn't care less about that old news. Your mileage may vary, especially since that 1968 VW bus you're driving can't get uphill any longer. Quote:
It's 40 years on now, Jerry's as dead as all fucking billy-hell, he's copped the last heroin he's ever gonna fix-up -- and you've yet to do anything proactive towards your "community" to keep it from dying steadily, no matter how many times you pat yourself on the back. Your "entitlement" issues are a disgrace, not a goddam badge of honor. BWA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-oh, you sure told me, shucks..... Major..... If you'd like to continue this, let's take it to the taper's forum, shall we? Let's leave this thread to all "ratio police" to get back to sneering at vlad's numbers, OK? We can start a new thread there and let's see if anyone there salutes you, Bill.
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Torrenting is also a very good thing. I wonder if, tech speaking, torrent is the last and final word on distributed file sharing, or if some new revolutionary approach will be developed over the next few years. ![]() No members have liked this post.
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YOUR opinion. Others feel differently. The mileage varies, don't it though? For every positive you see in making music trading more impersonal, there are the same number of negatives. (For example, not forcing collectors to at least considering to add something new and unique to the trade pool for every something they take. Consider the number of shows NEVER recorded by giving out free rides to anyone with the means to grab and go.) Quote:
Garbage in, garbage out.... New delivery systems don't ensure that what you grabbed is actually what some good "seeder" says it is. New delivery systems don't ensure the best version, just newer and quicker forms of instant gratification of garbage copies also. In the almost 5 years that I've been supplying TTD with copies from my master tapes, I'm noticing a new trend: "good" collectors re-mastering my tapes and fucking up their remaster, then circulating it without all the pertinent info. The NRPS 1976-05-30 recording I made and had offered at TTD first is now making the rounds in an altered form, that is now corrupted. And that corrupt copy is supplanting the original unblemished master. Imagine that: someone had to 'monkey' with a master tape for NO other reason than to put their name on it. A different torrent site is now passing around an mp3 version of something that was first offered here from my master in lossless format. Imagine that: someone took one of my masters from this site, converted it to mp3, then someone converted that back into analog, then someone turned that back into a digital format. I eagerly await that version to make the rounds here. Garbage in, garbage out..... but at least someone else got to add their name to the recording as the "re-master-er" while removing the taper's name and other info. Don't you just love it? Garbage in, garbage out.
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Re: Should we ban thoughtless leechers?
I feel entitled to the opinions of others
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"We're here to have a ball." Art Blakey "Reality is a hallucination brought on by lack of alcohol." Graham Chapman "I'll drink to your health til it ruins mine" Art Blakey "Trust a pro" Keith Richards "here is my offer: nothing" Mike C No members have liked this post.
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