The Traders' Den  

  The Traders' Den > Where we go to learn ..... > Technobabble > Lossy or Lossless?
 

Notices

Lossy or Lossless? Please use this forum to post spectral and frequency analysis posts about shows you have your doubts about.

Reply
 
Thread Tools
  #16  
Old 2013-01-18, 11:35 AM
Drgiggles1's Avatar
Drgiggles1 Drgiggles1 is offline
976.80 GB/2.99 TB/3.14
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Pocono Mountains
Re: ATRAC or LPCM ?

Quote:
Originally Posted by jameskg View Post
Hello.


your screens shots are of little use.

you may omit the frequency analysis, which has very little to do with determining whether audio has been through lossy data compression.


please post 2-3 second spans, in color, from Cool Edit Pro 2.x / Adobe Audition, so we can actually see something.
Here you go in color as you wish.
http://i733.photobucket.com/albums/w...introwav-1.jpg
http://i733.photobucket.com/albums/w...ightswav-1.jpg
http://i733.photobucket.com/albums/w...llingwav-1.jpg
http://i733.photobucket.com/albums/w...Housewav-1.jpg
http://i733.photobucket.com/albums/w...urWaywav-1.jpg
__________________
"Schoeps Schmoeps!!!
(I don't hate Schoeps mics, just the snobs who foolishly believe excellent recordings can't be made without them.)" Falconidave
Mics: CA-14 (o,c,o)
Remote Power: CA-9100 pre-amp, CA-UBB battery box
Recorders: Sony PCM-M10, Tascam DR-2d
Cable/s: custom 6" GAKables Mini Starquad
Batteries: Maha 9.6V Imedion, Maha Powerex 2700 mAh
Chargers: Maha MH-C9000, MAHA MH-C490F
Reply With Quote Reply with Nested Quotes
  #17  
Old 2013-01-18, 06:03 PM
co9ol's Avatar
co9ol co9ol is offline
co9ol
303.62 GB/394.99 GB/1.30
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: GTA Ontario, Canada
Re: ATRAC or LPCM ?

Could by lossy, there is a definite drop off after 17k ish? I think I see some blocks too.
Reply With Quote Reply with Nested Quotes
  #18  
Old 2013-01-18, 08:52 PM
Audioarchivist's Avatar
Audioarchivist Audioarchivist is online now
Recording/Mastering Engineer
TTD Staff
790.99 GB/4.24 TB/5.49
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Victoria, BC, Canada
Re: ATRAC or LPCM ?

Sort of looks like a cutoff at almost 17khz, and MAYBE a little lego block-y. Honestly still a little hard to tell - screen resolution is still a little too low, and it's making the pixels a little blurry! A higher resolution screenshot would be a little better, IMHO...

I do see a bit of a 20k band especially on the right side, though.... Hmmm...

OK, here's a question, how were these files transferred to the computer? Digital transfer via USB, or did you play them in at real time via the analog line out to your analog line in on a soundcard or something?

Any more info than just a screenshot would help to identify what you're doing. The more we know, the more we can figure out...
__________________
"The music business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free, and good men die like dogs. There's also a negative side."
- Dr. Hunter S. Thompson (1937-2005)
Reply With Quote Reply with Nested Quotes
  #19  
Old 2013-01-18, 11:36 PM
paddington's Avatar
paddington paddington is offline
crumpet-stuffer
TTD Staff
87.48 GB/884.33 GB/10.11
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: UK
Re: ATRAC or LPCM ?

Frequency range / HF roll off are not indicative of lossy data compression.



All those samples look lossy. I have a question about one of them, but they're all compromised, I'm pretty sure. It's hard to be certain because of the low resolution of the screen caps

I'm sorry to keep asking for things, but please try to make your screenshots at least 300dpi, else it becomes difficult to read what's going on in the spectrum analyzer. Low res jpgs blur details pretty badly because... Get this. Lol... It's lossy compression
__________________
"There are some of these recordings where it is just a whirring, and you cannot hear the music. " - Jimmy Page, 2007 / JUL / 26
Reply With Quote Reply with Nested Quotes
  #20  
Old 2013-01-19, 06:30 AM
co9ol's Avatar
co9ol co9ol is offline
co9ol
303.62 GB/394.99 GB/1.30
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: GTA Ontario, Canada
Re: ATRAC or LPCM ?

Next time maybe post small sections in FLAC instead of having to give 1000 different screen shots lol
Reply With Quote Reply with Nested Quotes
Reply

The Traders' Den > Where we go to learn ..... > Technobabble > Lossy or Lossless?

Similar Threads
Thread Forum Replies Last Post
MiniDisc (Atrac) Spectral and Frequency analyses. - range_hood Lossy or Lossless? 15 2019-05-12 04:10 AM
Gspot & LPCM ? - NoddingTurdFAN Technobabble 6 2005-01-06 06:46 PM


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forums


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:54 PM.


Powered by: vBulletin, Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004 - , TheTradersDen.org - All Rights Reserved - Hosted at QuickPacket