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Old 2007-09-01, 10:51 AM
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Re: Lossy or Lossless?!?!?!?!?!!?

older broadcasts are lossy in the sense that there is heavy dynamics compression and everything above 15kHz is filtered out... but the md compression has never been used for any broadcast I've ever come across, check the blocky 'parapets' up in the highest highs. That's where its visible, but MD will also dig in below its cutoff to discard more data it thinks you don't need. Everything slurs a little When we use the term 'lossy' on this board we're referring to digital endoders like lame (mp3), ogg vorbis, atrac (md), real, vqf, aac, ac3 (dvd), etc. We don't use it in the broad literal sense.

as far as modern broadcasts go I'm not sure when it started but 99% of mainstream radio worldwide is lossy encoded before broadcast.

We don't allow webcasts or digital satellite radio here since they're of wildly varying quality, leaning toward really low. But the modern analog broadcasts are still predictable in their level of frequency response so we still allow taping of radio from the open air, even though it is expected to be lossy in this day and age.

Tony, it is possible that the silver disc that was ripped from was pressed as lossy, that does happen sometimes. I've got 2 silvers that are sourced from mp3 in my collection

Other times MD gets in the lineage because when MD was a new thing nobody knew what lossy was, just that they could send a nice small digital copy on a minidisc instead of a cassette with the added noise... many shows have gone into circulation with this problem. Many of them have pure lossless counterparts in circulation so we try to keep the md sources off this tracker unless its been really well researched and known only to circulate with md in the lineage (eg Beatles A/B Road).
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