[AAR.oner]

there should not be official releases on a trading list or trading site -- period!

we do not allow them here at TTD, and i think most traders would agree they don't belong anywhere in the trading community...yes there are occasions when a show has been circulating as an unofficial boot and then is finally released after many years, these things happen...but when a trader is going thru a list, s/he naturally assumes everything on that list is unoffical and free for trading...this is why people should not have any of their ORs on their list or site

in addition, every trader should be checking the new shows they get in which could be questionable as to whether it could be official [i.e. not an obvious audience recording]...if you can trade, email, use bit torrent -- then you can certainly google a show with "ARTIST - DATE &/or VENUE - DVD" to see if its an OR


as Chaosu pointed out, the show in question actually had the copyright information at the beginning of the DVD -- this should be an obvious indicator and the show should not be traded or listed...otherwise, google new shows you get in and don't add them to your list if there is any question

most traders have had at least a couple of shows on their list that became an OR, so no one is attacking you pechenie...however, a little time and effort into knowing your collection will go a long way...a good start will be removing the show we're discussing here from your list, and any other known ORs...the rest can be dealt with as new shows come in and you are updating your list