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rents
2005-07-06, 11:39 AM
I know when you copy an audio disc, say in a trade, its best to use EAC.
So when you go to copy a dvd, is there a certain way to do it so you wont lose quality or what-not. I would guess the best way might be to just save the orginal files and do it that way.

U2Lynne
2005-07-06, 12:17 PM
I usually make a disc image (iso) to my hard drive and then burn that. It seems the most straight forward way for me. However, if I'm putting a DVD on my drive to torrent, I make an md5 checksum of the VIDEO_TS folder on the DVD, then copy the VIDEO_TS folder to my hard drive and then run the md5 checksum against the copied contents. I think there is an application called DVD Decrytor for PCs to copy the contents of a VIDEO_TS folder to your hard drive (I'm not sure of the name since I'm on a Mac and there isn't something similar).

rents
2005-07-06, 12:28 PM
Thanks for the info Lynne

p_k
2005-07-06, 12:37 PM
yea use dvd decrypter, then burn with nero.. you cant use DVD shrink if you trying to copy a larger 8gig disc. it will shrink it to fit your disc.....

AAR.oner
2005-07-06, 01:28 PM
it depends what format the DVD show is in--"data disc" or "DVD-Video"? if its just a data disc with the Video_TS folder on it, yuo can just copy/paste to yer HD and then burn in data format to send...if its a DVD-Video [i.e. one you can watch on yer standalon DVD player] then you'll need to decrypt it using DVD Decrypter or similar program.

for trading, its best to always archive and trade in data disc format with md5s, as extraction can lead to glitches...

gsmyth79
2005-07-06, 04:00 PM
I think there is an application called DVD Decrytor for PCs to copy the contents of a VIDEO_TS folder to your hard drive (I'm not sure of the name since I'm on a Mac and there isn't something similar).

Lynne, there is a program for that, it's called Mac the Ripper. you can probably find it on versiontracker. I haven't tried checking md5s against those straight off the DVD, but it's the standard over at videohelp.

rents
2005-07-10, 06:36 PM
I used dvd decrytor (thanks for the help guys) and was able to take care of 2 dvds with no problems. But with a 3rd I ran into some problems. I posted the output log on another tech forum and the people there seem to think the disc is dirty/damaged. I cleaned the disc and it doesnt look like its messed up or anything. Still no luck though. So Im going to post the log here too, just too see what anybody else thinks..


I 15:27:43 DVD Decrypter Version 3.5.4.0 started!
I 15:27:43 Microsoft Windows Millennium Edition
W 15:27:43 Drive C:\ (FAT32) does not support single files > 4 GB
I 15:27:43 Initialising ASPI...
I 15:27:43 WNASPI32.DLL - ASPI for WIN32 Manager for WIN95 - ASPI for WIN32 DLL - Version 1.0.0.1
I 15:27:43 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...
I 15:27:43 Found 1 CD-ROM and 1 DVD±RW!
I 15:29:19 Operation Started!
I 15:29:19 Source Device: [0:1:0] SONY DVD RW DRU-700A VY02 (E:)
I 15:29:19 Source Media Type: DVD-R (Disc ID: FUJIFILM03)
I 15:29:19 Source Media Region Code: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8
I 15:29:19 Source Media Copyright Protection System Type: None
I 15:29:19 Source Media Implementation Identifier: AHEAD Nero
I 15:29:19 Destination Folder: C:\New\VIDEO_TS\
I 15:29:19 File Splitting: By File
I 15:29:19 Detect Mastering Errors: No
I 15:29:19 Multi Angle Processing: No
I 15:29:19 Remove Macrovision Protection: Yes
I 15:29:19 Stream Processing: No
I 15:29:20 Copying VIDEO_TS.IFO... (LBA: 279 - 284) - KEY: N/A
I 15:29:20 Copying VIDEO_TS.VOB... (LBA: 285 - 301) - KEY: N/A
I 15:29:20 Copying VIDEO_TS.BUP... (LBA: 302 - 307) - KEY: N/A
I 15:29:20 Copying VTS_01_0.IFO... (LBA: 308 - 344) - KEY: N/A
I 15:29:21 Copying VTS_01_1.VOB... (LBA: 345 - 524353) - KEY: N/A
W 15:33:48 Failed to read Sector 76640 - Unrecovered Read Error
E 15:35:33 Failed to read Sector 76641 - Unrecovered Read Error
E 15:35:36 Failed to copy VTS_01_1.VOB!
I 15:35:49 Copying VTS_01_2.VOB... (LBA: 524354 - 1048362) - KEY: N/A
E 15:44:53 Failed to read Sector 803088 - Unrecovered Read Error
E 15:44:56 Failed to copy VTS_01_2.VOB!
I 15:44:59 Copying VTS_01_3.VOB... (LBA: 1048363 - 1572371) - KEY: N/A
E 15:48:52 Failed to read Sector 1121904 - Unrecovered Read Error
E 15:48:53 Failed to copy VTS_01_3.VOB!
I 15:48:55 Copying VTS_01_4.VOB... (LBA: 1572372 - 1776413) - KEY: N/A
E 15:55:12 Failed to read Sector 1736752 - Unrecovered Read Error
E 15:55:13 Failed to copy VTS_01_4.VOB!
I 15:55:14 Copying VTS_01_0.BUP... (LBA: 1776414 - 1776450) - KEY: N/A
I 15:55:15 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:25:55
I 15:55:15 Average Read Rate: 762 KB/s (0.6x) - Maximum Read Rate: 3,086 KB/s (2.2x)

Five
2005-07-10, 07:26 PM
ouch!

does that DVD play okay it's just that you can't rip it?

here's another thing you could try...

open the DVD like you would a normal data DVD. you will see AUDIO_TS and VIDEO_TS of course. generate an .md5 directly from the DVD (I use md5summer). Do it from the highest level of the DVD so that the generated checksums have VIDEO_TS/ in front of the filenames something like this:

35d4c99aa765e23f9a2875158f3b53e4 *VIDEO_TS/VIDEO_TS.BUP
35d4c99aa765e23f9a2875158f3b53e4 *VIDEO_TS/VIDEO_TS.IFO
5348c8ddbdb2ef3ae8d6d36bbab87a2a *VIDEO_TS/VIDEO_TS.VOB
3965a46cc37105df9c03c9b54a2d1b0b *VIDEO_TS/VTS_01_0.BUP
3965a46cc37105df9c03c9b54a2d1b0b *VIDEO_TS/VTS_01_0.IFO
473a8ffe7dee609555e909d6f647f18e *VIDEO_TS/VTS_01_1.VOB
459a78d5948c47f6434d62eb91cc57c7 *VIDEO_TS/VTS_01_2.VOB

Then save this somewhere. Now go to the DVD with explorer (or whatever) and drag and drop the VIDEO_TS folder from the DVD to your folder that the torrent for the show will be generated from (e.g. someband2005-07-10.dvdf). Now put the .md5 you generated from the DVD into the "someband" folder alongside the VIDEO_TS folder you just copied and run it. It will tell you whether there is one iota of difference between what's on the DVD and what you copied to your HD. Also try playing the DVD off teh HD using Media Player Clasic or whatever to make sure it works okay just in case. Then make a .txt file etc and go ahead with it so long as the checksums verify okay.

hope this helps

pawel
2005-07-10, 07:39 PM
if its a DVD-Video [i.e. one you can watch on yer standalon DVD player] then you'll need to decrypt it using DVD Decrypter or similar program.
:rolleyes: what comics people can write :lol You don't need to use any special software, just copy contents of the video_ts folder to HD, and that's all.

pawel
2005-07-10, 07:57 PM
RENTS -> probably disc has been incorrectly burned. It happens when you burn at maximum speed a disc may handle.

Also, if you don't have XP try to install Adaptec ASPI which is much better than this provided with Win (9x, Millenium). Install most recent eprom for your burner.

rents
2005-07-10, 10:05 PM
Thanks for the insight/advice, Ill try some of that stuff. And to answer your question, Five, oddly enough, the disc plays fine.

doh doh doh is all I can say

pawel
2005-07-11, 07:03 AM
And to answer your question, Five, oddly enough, the disc plays fine.
Some software as well as standalone players are able to skip bad frames without much visable distortion. Of course depends on how many damaged sectors you have, if there are any.

rents
2005-07-11, 08:02 AM
Some software as well as standalone players are able to skip bad frames without much visable distortion. Of course depends on how many damaged sectors you have, if there are any.


Well upon watching it again last nite, I see that now, its skipping around and freezing and dropping out here and there. Never did it before. Its just strange. I made a copy for a friend in May, worked out fine, I watched it right after that, worked fine. Now, like I say, its not playing right. Ah well....