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classicrock1169
2008-05-04, 08:12 PM
WHat is the difference between TY -r and +r. Why do the +r cost 2x as much? ARe the -r crap or something.

tgunn2760
2008-05-04, 11:44 PM
WHat is the difference between TY -r and +r. Why do the +r cost 2x as much? ARe the -r crap or something.

Couldn't understand that either, the minus I have tried are excellent.

bot
2008-05-05, 01:06 AM
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Thulani
2008-05-05, 01:59 AM
Watch these 2 threads & you'll figure out why: TY DVD+R (http://club.cdfreaks.com/f76/taiyo-yuden-dvd-r-75920/index13.html) & TY DVD-R (http://club.cdfreaks.com/f76/taiyo-yuden-dvd-r-80885/index12.html)

saltman
2008-05-05, 11:12 AM
I have used the -Rs for several years with 0 problems. That is all I use.

ffooky
2008-05-05, 11:23 AM
It's considered that +R media are *likely* to have a longer readable life.

You pays yer money, you takes yer pick

Friday
2008-05-05, 03:55 PM
+R is the "new improved" -R
http://adterrasperaspera.com/blog/2006/10/30/how-to-choose-cddvd-archival-media

tgunn2760
2008-05-05, 04:11 PM
Watch these 2 threads & you'll figure out why: TY DVD+R (http://club.cdfreaks.com/f76/taiyo-yuden-dvd-r-75920/index13.html) & TY DVD-R (http://club.cdfreaks.com/f76/taiyo-yuden-dvd-r-80885/index12.html)

Have no clue as to what any of that means.

tgunn2760
2008-05-05, 04:12 PM
+R is the "new improved" -R
http://adterrasperaspera.com/blog/2006/10/30/how-to-choose-cddvd-archival-media

Some standalones have problems playing minus.

The minus have slightly more capacity than the pluses.

I keep minuses handy in case I can't fit a show onto a plus.

Thulani
2008-05-05, 04:43 PM
Have no clue as to what any of that means.
DVD+R has less PI Erorrs/Failures then DVD-R. Low number of errors means better media.

tgunn2760
2008-05-05, 05:21 PM
Have no clue as to what any of that means.
DVD+R has less PI Erorrs/Failures then DVD-R. Low number of errors means better media.

Thanks...I used two 100 disc spindles of TY minus, not even one bad disc.

Of the 30 pack Sony plus I buy, I throw away 3 or more.

saltman
2008-05-05, 05:24 PM
That's not a fair comparison. TY are far superior to current Sony's. Sony's used to be manufactured by TY. but no more. I bet I have burned 2000 dvds/cds that were TY and can only remember one or two that had a bad burn. I have never had one go bad over time.

tgunn2760
2008-05-05, 06:39 PM
That's not a fair comparison. TY are far superior to current Sony's. Sony's used to be manufactured by TY. but no more. I bet I have burned 2000 dvds/cds that were TY and can only remember one or two that had a bad burn. I have never had one go bad over time.

I don't see where we disagree?

I said TY were far superior to Sony. I didn't throw away ANY of the 200 TY I burned.

Sonys fail often. Usually early on, less than 100,000 sectors burned.

Thulani
2008-05-06, 02:11 AM
Well Sony DVD-R is crap media (just bought some of these and I'm sure I will not use them for my bootlegs). Sony DVD+R are pretty good. At least its better then the new Verbatim made in China. Until 1 year ago I would just go to the store & buy Verbatim, now I have to read where they are made.

direwolf-pgh
2008-05-06, 01:08 PM
bunch of blab. haven't had bad burns since the mid 90's

2 :)

Thulani
2008-05-06, 03:08 PM
I had not bad burns since I used some Samsung media crap. I think that happened this year or last year (bad memory).

dorrcoq
2008-05-06, 03:51 PM
bunch of blab. haven't had bad burns since the mid 90's

2 :)


I seriously doubt you were burning DVD's in the mid-90's

direwolf-pgh
2008-05-06, 04:09 PM
bunch of blab. haven't had bad burns since the mid 90's

2 :)


I seriously doubt you were burning DVD's in the mid-90's:lol: oops. nope. you're right. 74min CD's only back then.

but my point is, maybe if you have burn issues its not the discs..its that cheapo burner you purchased.

in the mid-90's the issue was the system/bus speed/hard drive throughput.
80Mhz systems with SCSI drives would often fail on the $5 blank CD & $400 2x SCSI burner.

I wish people who have burn issues would post what drive they are using.
my guess is they own a $30 burner quickly built in china. my advice is get the $100 burner

Thulani
2008-05-06, 05:18 PM
Why should we get an 100 dollars burner? To see it next month at half price?

tgunn2760
2008-05-06, 05:22 PM
Why should we get an 100 dollars burner? To see it next month at half price?

Most burners today are in the $30-50 range.

Paid $200 for my first crappy LG. Never buy that brand again.

What's the scoop on Plextors? Are they worth the extra bucks?

mooncusser
2008-05-06, 09:47 PM
I've never had a single problem with my Plextor. Don't know if others would call them worth the extra money, but I like knowing that it's not gonna be the weak link in my setup.

AAR.oner
2008-05-07, 06:17 AM
I've never had a single problem with my Plextor. Don't know if others would call them worth the extra money, but I like knowing that it's not gonna be the weak link in my setup.

agreed :thumbsup

Thulani
2008-05-07, 07:12 AM
Why should we get an 100 dollars burner? To see it next month at half price?

Most burners today are in the $30-50 range.

Paid $200 for my first crappy LG. Never buy that brand again.

What's the scoop on Plextors? Are they worth the extra bucks?
I payed 100$+ (don't remember the excance rates) for an LG and next month it was 30-40$.

About Plextor: many will say yes, and others will say no.

In my opinion the most problems are caused by bad media not by the burner.

tgunn2760
2008-05-08, 01:14 PM
Most burners today are in the $30-50 range.

Paid $200 for my first crappy LG. Never buy that brand again.

What's the scoop on Plextors? Are they worth the extra bucks?
I payed 100$+ (don't remember the excance rates) for an LG and next month it was 30-40$.

About Plextor: many will say yes, and others will say no.

In my opinion the most problems are caused by bad media not by the burner.

I have to agree with that.

dude87
2008-05-08, 11:07 PM
Burners are incredibly cheap, especially if you buy OEM models from Newegg.com and the like (around $20 or so). I get about a year on a typical OEM burner, then errors start to show up and I buy another. My first CD burner was a Plextor (SCSI, because it mattered back then), the last Plextor I bought (about three years ago) lasted a year and I decided at that point that I wasn't going to pay a premium for a drive that lasts a year. Of course, I burn a lot of discs :), so YMMV.

Buy good media, pay attention to the quality of your burns. If you start seeing a problem then figure it's time to spend another $25 on a burner.