Name & Shame Uberleechers Thread

[U2Lynne]

Guys, I'm gonna start deleting off-topic posts. Stay on topic or get back to The Lounge!

:whip:

[vladsmythe]

Lynne, I'm very confused as to what the topic is. On page 12 of this thread http://www.thetradersden.org/forums/showthread.php?t=25339&page=12 I was the subject. Of name and shame. Has something changed that I'm not aware of. I'm really trying to abide by the TradersDen official bi-laws.

[U2Lynne]

Lynne, I'm very confused as to what the topic is. On page 12 of this thread http://www.thetradersden.org/forums/showthread.php?t=25339&page=12 I was the subject. Of name and shame. Has something changed that I'm not aware of. I'm really trying to abide by the TradersDen official bi-laws.If you read the start of the thread, it was to point out users with very low share ratios who were continuing to download everything and anything. It is because of this thread that I put in some conditionals regarding how many shows you may download at a time based on your ratio. See this FAQ about that. (http://www.thetradersden.org/forums/faq.php?faq=bittorrent#faq_connection_limit) Then the thread mutated to be about users with low ratios who have downloaded quite a bit. You got pointed out by someone to be one of those users. So, OK, that's it. Nothing more, nothing less. That doesn't mean you need to say a thing, all it means is someone feels you have a low ratio.

If you want to post in this thread pointing out users with low ratios then feel free to, but don't use this forum as some new Kinder and Gentler Lounge. That's not going to happen. The Mods have been removing your posts because that seems to be what you are trying to do. I have asked them not to for now and said that I will start asking you to post on-topic or not post at all. I even took my whip back from Heather so I could get serious about this. I have suggested you hit the Ignore button in this thread (under Thread Tools) if you can't seem to just ignore this thread on your own. If you aren't willing to do that and you need help staying out of this thread, or forum, I can just push a button and help you with that. :cool:

[uninvited94]

Sorry uninvited....Shame on you.

uninvited94 (.50)

Fucked-up ratio by a fucked-up guy, but I´m working on it. 104 successful uploads to date, however.

[U2Lynne]

I'll post the same message in here that I posted in the other thread that is getting a lot of off topic posts:

OK, all off topic posts from this thread are being moved to The Lounge. That goes for any future ones too. And future threads.

:whip:

[Dylan]

btartus1

811.19 GB 3.45 TB 0.23


What a Fucking Loser

:nono::nono::nono:

[Dylan]

mikeheas
115.10 GB/47.88 GB/0.42 :down::down::down:

[direwolf-pgh]

:hmm: :lol: :nono: get 'em!

http://www.thetradersden.org/forums/member.php?u=1284

[retired]

choochoo (http://www.thetradersden.org/forums/member.php?u=91405)
(133.61 GB/18.89 GB/0.14) :disbelief

[Jetrell69]

Join Date: 06-06-07

nakanakanaka

Total Posts: 0 (0 posts per day)

Downloaded: 308.21 GB Uploaded: 51.76 GB Ratio: 0.17 :down: :nono: :down:

Now THIS is an UBERleech!!! Not even a SINGLE thank you to anyone...but they sure got time to get some music don't they....... :nono: :nono:

[rspencer]

captwillard

Join Date: 06-30-07

Total Posts: 1

Downloaded: 232.45 GB Uploaded: 6.79 GB Ratio: 0.03 :wtf: :disbelief

[Planet Boulder]

Hell, I don't think I've ever downloaded more than 3 shows at a time on any site. The performance hit just wouldn't be worth it. :hmm:

[CAvis]

bradmf

Downloaded: 1.01 TB Uploaded: 37.31 GB Ratio: 0.04

[Tubular]

bradmf

Downloaded: 1.01 TB Uploaded: 37.31 GB Ratio: 0.04

That seems impossible. :hmm: It must be an error, not his true ratio.

[CAvis]

Could be, but I know he jumped off as soon as he finished d/ling a couple of my recent torrents. So even if that is a mistake, he is still an uberleecher who I think is deserving of this thread.

[rspencer]

bradmf

Downloaded: 1.01 TB Uploaded: 37.31 GB Ratio: 0.04

That seems impossible. :hmm: It must be an error, not his true ratio.

Hops on torretns with lots of seeders, few to no leechers? Maybe sandvined as well?

Pretty extreme, but I suppose it's possible.

[U2Lynne]

bradmf

Downloaded: 1.01 TB Uploaded: 37.31 GB Ratio: 0.04

That seems impossible. :hmm: It must be an error, not his true ratio.

Could be, but I know he jumped off as soon as he finished d/ling a couple of my recent torrents. So even if that is a mistake, he is still an uberleecher who I think is deserving of this thread.
I think it is more amazing than impossible. I have seen people download before and upload next to nothing. They must cap their upload at 1 kb/s... max. Why they would do this, I don't know, but I really have seen some users get these sort of ratios on torrents and then I look at their profile and see it isn't just my torrent, but everyone's torrent that they do so poorly on. I just give their screen profile the evil eye and say "karma, dude, karma."

[Tubular]

http://www.thetradersden.org/forums/member.php?u=153463

Join Date: 02-02-07

Posts Total Posts: 9 (0.02 posts per day) Find all posts by bradmf (http://www.thetradersden.org/forums/search.php?do=finduser&u=153463) Find all threads started by bradmf (http://www.thetradersden.org/forums/search.php?do=finduser&u=153463&starteronly=1) Downloaded: 1.02 TB Uploaded: 37.47 GB Ratio: 0.04




I just find it hard to believe that someone can download 1000 GB in a little more than a year and only give back 40 GB. :hmm:

[U2Lynne]

I just find it hard to believe that someone can download 1000 GB in a little more than a year and only give back 40 GB. :hmm:
I think it takes effort to have that poor of a ratio. You cannot just naturally make it that poor. You have to cap your upload, and have your client set to disconnect as soon as you finish the download, otherwise you would have a much better ratio.

[Jetrell69]

Definitely one for the "list".....lmao!!!

Why people like this are even allowed to stay on a tracker are beyond me.....they do nothing short of serving ONLY themselves....probably burning the discs and selling them at trade shows or on a crappy website.

Wanker is TOO good of a word for that one.

[U2Lynne]

Definitely one for the "list".....lmao!!!

Why people like this are even allowed to stay on a tracker are beyond me.....they do nothing short of serving ONLY themselves....probably burning the discs and selling them at trade shows or on a crappy website.

Wanker is TOO good of a word for that one.
The problem is that it is very difficult to get rid of them. If I ban them, they just sign up under another name. If I IP ban them, they simply click a button to get a new IP (that's all I have to do) or come in through a proxy. I figure it's better for us all to see the stats on him. Which is worse, a guy with 1 GB downloaded and 40 MB uploaded or the guy with 100 GB downloaded and 4 GB uploaded? I know that makes a difference to how I see someone's ratio.

[Jetrell69]

The problem is that it is very difficult to get rid of them. If I ban them, they just sign up under another name. If I IP ban them, they simply click a button to get a new IP (that's all I have to do) or come in through a proxy. I figure it's better for us all to see the stats on him. Which is worse, a guy with 1 GB downloaded and 40 MB uploaded or the guy with 100 GB downloaded and 4 GB uploaded? I know that makes a difference to how I see someone's ratio.

Point well taken.....I guess at least I said what I said so if they decide to come visit this thread "just to see" then they will know people here DO notice their lack of manners.

:)

[skip]

I think it is more amazing than impossible. I have seen people download before and upload next to nothing. They must cap their upload at 1 kb/s... max. Why they would do this, I don't know, but I really have seen some users get these sort of ratios on torrents and then I look at their profile and see it isn't just my torrent, but everyone's torrent that they do so poorly on. I just give their screen profile the evil eye and say "karma, dude, karma."
You should ban them :thumbsup

[uninvited94]

http://www.thetradersden.org/forums/member.php?u=153463

Join Date: 02-02-07

Posts Total Posts: 9 (0.02 posts per day) Find all posts by bradmf (http://www.thetradersden.org/forums/search.php?do=finduser&u=153463) Find all threads started by bradmf (http://www.thetradersden.org/forums/search.php?do=finduser&u=153463&starteronly=1) Downloaded: 1.02 TB Uploaded: 37.47 GB Ratio: 0.04




I just find it hard to believe that someone can download 1000 GB in a little more than a year and only give back 40 GB. :hmm:

"bradmf"?!? I suppose his name´s "Brad Motherfuxxer". When he´d sell his downloads on Ebay or in a store, he´d be the real king of this thread.

[mooncusser]

geco123
Downloaded: 1.26 TB Uploaded: 80.66 GB Ratio: 0.06
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http://www.thetradersden.org/forums/member.php?u=55695

How is that possible unless you deliberately set your client to severely limit your upload speeds?

Not to mention the fact that he hasn't given a single thank you for anything he's grabbed. :down:

[lounge_act]

wow. what a jerk. really. bad karma to him.

[retired]

testr1234 (http://www.thetradersden.org/forums/member.php?u=252755)
(121.26 GB/24.56 GB/0.20) :disbelief

[retired]

live2cd (http://www.thetradersden.org/forums/member.php?u=9209)
(85.96 GB/23.79 GB/0.28) :disbelief

[drjohnny]

xir
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[retired]

lostblues (http://www.thetradersden.org/forums/member.php?u=9076)
(255.48 GB/37.71 GB/0.15) :disbelief

[LeifH12345]

ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOP
Downloaded: 5.82 GB Uploaded: 367.58 MB Ratio: 0.06

:disbelief

[danlynch]

ankrutik
Join Date: 05-14-08
Total Posts: 5 (0.28 posts per day)
Downloaded: 6.07 GB Uploaded: 359.27 MB Ratio: 0.06 :disbelief

[landesm]

Actually you were promoted from high speed sharer to uploader heymnaooh1...which you still are.

And before anyone tells me my ratio sucks here, I know it.
I'm just living by TTDs rules and there are no ratio requirements.
I'd follow them if there were FYI.

Roshambo was banned for telling one of our staff to f*ck off on the public forum.

We also don't allow commercially released material. If you saw something, why didn't you report it?
We are constantly checking stuff, but can't know and spot everything.

I have no comment on most of this stuff. I don't know enough about how this works to have a valid opinion. In fact, I'm reading this extremely long thread as a means of understanding the community a little better. But one thing....

"I'm just living by TTDs rules....I'd follow them if there were..."

No argument, you are within TTDs rules. so no complaint. but, your attitude
if sincere plain puzzles me. I don't pretend to know anything, but I don't think there is any golden goose out there, just a community of sharers. If people
don't give what they get in the long run, pretty soon there is no site. So whether your ratio is technically considered abuse or not, I don't see the point.

..anyway this long discussion is very helpful to me. Hope I'm not presumptuous to chime in.
m:wave:

[AAR.oner]

bradmf

Downloaded: 1.01 TB Uploaded: 37.31 GB Ratio: 0.04

and it seems little bradley is still at it:

bradmf (http://www.thetradersden.org/forums/member.php?u=153463)
Downloaded: 1.41 TB Uploaded: 43.47 GB Ratio: 0.03



and lets not forget:

mperkins37 (http://www.thetradersden.org/forums/member.php?u=85614)
Downloaded: 3.13 TB Uploaded: 915.96 GB Ratio: 0.29



yeah, that was my show you two fuckers just downloaded and then ran on...leaving the other person stuck with no seeds of course...fuckin douchebags :finger:

[retired]

HELLUVASKINSFAN (http://www.thetradersden.org/forums/member.php?u=190087)
(679.89 GB/136.58 GB/0.20) :disbelief

[uninvited94]

metallifitz

Downloaded: 818.40 GB Uploaded: 70.50 GB Ratio: 0.09

[LeifH12345]

:piss: Evan811 0.02 :disbelief

[Jetrell69]

and it seems little bradley is still at it:

bradmf (http://www.thetradersden.org/forums/member.php?u=153463)
Downloaded: 1.41 TB Uploaded: 43.47 GB Ratio: 0.03



and lets not forget:

mperkins37 (http://www.thetradersden.org/forums/member.php?u=85614)
Downloaded: 3.13 TB Uploaded: 915.96 GB Ratio: 0.29



yeah, that was my show you two fuckers just downloaded and then ran on...leaving the other person stuck with no seeds of course...fuckin douchebags :finger:

I 2nd the "douche bag" comment......and I would SO love to have a HUGE boot to stuff right up their %$#@*& right now.

:)

[retired]

nikoskom (http://www.thetradersden.org/forums/member.php?u=259190)
(119.30 GB/5.06 GB/0.04) :disbelief

[Bort]

I have a bad ratio, but I leave all my shows seeding. I don't throttle the upload speed either. :(

Maybe I just download stuff that nobody else wants.

[Jochem]

...I have seen people download before and upload next to nothing. They must cap their upload at 1 kb/s... max. Why they would do this, I don't know...
Maybe a reason for this bevavior is that in most European countries it is illegal to upload but legal to download.

[Corvid]

Ok, still don't understand how to improve my seeding on utorrent. I'm with Rogers cable in Canada, love this forum and the program in general, but keep crashing my connection. I'm running an admittedly crappy Linksys WRT-55AG router. I've updated the firmware to the latest edition and it is working better, but if I leave it on overnight, it's always dead by morning. Can't unplug as the wireless setup needs to be active for the rest of the family. I don't have the time or patience to read up on this, sorry, not an ubergeek by any means, just want to do my part. Suggestionz?

* Download speeds are incredible, just checked - 245 kB/s down, 4.2 up...

[Jetrell69]

I have a bad ratio, but I leave all my shows seeding. I don't throttle the upload speed either. :(

Maybe I just download stuff that nobody else wants.

Maybe you download "more" than your share of stuff nobody wants....that's why your upload/download ratio are so far apart.

;)

[Jetrell69]

Maybe a reason for this bevavior is that in most European countries it is illegal to upload but legal to download.

It surely doesn't stop them from bootlegging.

;)

[Pimpbot5000]

Ok, still don't understand how to improve my seeding on utorrent. I'm with Rogers cable in Canada, love this forum and the program in general, but keep crashing my connection. I'm running an admittedly crappy Linksys WRT-55AG router. I've updated the firmware to the latest edition and it is working better, but if I leave it on overnight, it's always dead by morning. Can't unplug as the wireless setup needs to be active for the rest of the family. I don't have the time or patience to read up on this, sorry, not an ubergeek by any means, just want to do my part. Suggestionz?

* Download speeds are incredible, just checked - 245 kB/s down, 4.2 up...

It may be too many peers per torrent for your router to handle that's causing your connection to drop. Try reducing the max number of peers per torrent. In uTorrent go to Preferences (the big gear icon, or in options), then BitTorrent, then maximum number of connected peers per torrent (reduce this to 30 or 20).

[mooncusser]

jacek6666 (http://www.thetradersden.org/forums/member.php?u=108177) http://www.thetradersden.org/forums/images/statusiconttd/user_offline.gif
10.41 GB/765.38 MB/0.07


:rolleyes:

[retired]

David E Bush (http://www.thetradersden.org/forums/member.php?u=101004)
(1.11 TB/67.71 GB/0.06) :disbelief

[retired]

Cecoani (http://www.thetradersden.org/forums/member.php?u=150152)
(587.07 GB/92.90 GB/0.16) :disbelief

[Jetrell69]

robegol


Join Date: 12-24-06
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Downloaded: 52.92 GB Uploaded: 20.51 GB Ratio: 0.39

YEESH :(

[Jetrell69]

harbornemule
170.00 GB/58.33 GB/0.34


Another clown with a singular thought process......

:(

[Phonkydude]

i say hang them :rolleyes:

[Corvid]

It may be too many peers per torrent for your router to handle that's causing your connection to drop. Try reducing the max number of peers per torrent. In uTorrent go to Preferences (the big gear icon, or in options), then BitTorrent, then maximum number of connected peers per torrent (reduce this to 30 or 20).

Trying it now, thanks. I'll try to get that ratio up, but I'm pretty much only downloading Steely Dan shows... ;)

[hugofuguzev]

terrapin_food:

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Downloaded: 59.13 GB Uploaded: 17.36 MB Ratio: 0.00

unnas:

Join Date: 02-02-08
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Downloaded: 58.37 GB Uploaded: 65.65 MB Ratio: 0.00


Jesus Christ almighty...the mind boggles...:disbelief

[U2Lynne]

I really don't understand how they can download so much but not upload anything. You are right, the mind boggles!

[pawel]

Honourably mentioned a few months ago:
lynyrd1 (http://www.thetradersden.org/forums/member.php?u=191473)
(500.69 GB/40.57 GB/0.08) :disbelief
and gets better, and better: 1.02 TB/69.95 GB/0.07

[freezer]

This thread jumped the fucking shark a long time ago.





:rolleyes:

[RareMusicVid]

Mother of God - who lets this go on? I am a member of another torrent site and if your ratio falls below 0.25 they suspend you until you upload or seed to a 0.25 ratio. Fall below it again and I think they ban you.

[Jetrell69]

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Total Posts: 14 (0.05 posts per day)
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Downloaded: 135.75 GB Uploaded: 34.36 GB Ratio: 0.25

Yet another poorly managed account here................. :(

[Toadinohio]

Just hit and skipped on one of my uploads, and he was the first to complete it!
Sleatrt
Join Date: 07-10-07
PostsTotal Posts: 0 (0 posts per day)
Downloaded: 380.88 GB Uploaded: 11.49 GB Ratio: 0.03

No trading, no uploads, nothing but take

[dementrium]

I'm vlad, very vlad I'm no longer an überleecher anymo. :wave:

[deadone]

hi all, me again, i hope i dont get added to the leech section. just finished dl the bergen 08 show and am now seeding. my upload aint the the best but i will seed as long as i can. seems that 4 peers are still on it so hopefully ill gain some back over the next couple of days

[Zenith023]

I really don't understand how they can download so much but not upload anything. You are right, the mind boggles!

They could be using this client (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BitThief), assuming it's not already banned here?

[RetroDude83]

I honstly dont understand whats so hard to upload the same amount that you have downloaded. My max. upload speed is only 1/6 of my max. download speed and I still manage to keep a decent ratio. I'v seen people with upload speeds way higher than my download speed and they had a shitty ratio, and never upload anything themselves. I fucking hate them all...

[deadone]

I honstly dont understand whats so hard to upload the same amount that you have downloaded. My max. upload speed is only 1/6 of my max. download speed and I still manage to keep a decent ratio. I'v seen people with upload speeds way higher than my download speed and they had a shitty ratio, and never upload anything themselves. I fucking hate them all...

so what your trying to say is people who have dl more than they uploaded you f ing hate them all, well thats a little harsh, you dont even no me for instance. seems your attutude is a little off and bang out of order

my upload speed aint the best but im still seeding, well i would be if any1 would dl to the torrent im connected to. seems by the time i get a chance to seed anything every1 has dl it already.

[RetroDude83]

well, if you take it that personally then it will be. If you still havent figured how to upload then it's your own fault. Ever tried uploading something yourself? That usually helps increasing your ratio instead of waiting for people to jump on old torrents... and as for your ratio, guess it's ok considering the amount. I was actually refering to people who download 500+gb and only uploaded say 50gb while their bandwidth should be able to upload lost in a short time. it all depends on how many torrents you upload yourself...

edit: and yes, I know how it's like to be stuck on shitty upload speeds. there's 2 ways to keep your ratio: upload yourself and dont download everything, but instead only the shit that you're really interested in... simple as that

[hugofuguzev]

...and here's the Top Ten for 2 November 2008, all the way from the Home Office in beautiful downtown Cherryville:


Top 10 Worst Sharers (with minimum 10 GB downloaded)
Rank User Uploaded Downloaded Ratio
1 fleamt 16.00 KB :wtf: 13.91 GB 0.00
2 terrapin_food 17.98 MB 62.06 GB 0.00
3 enivid 4.78 MB 12.66 GB 0.00
4 vegetable_man 18.78 MB 31.58 GB 0.00
5 homeair 11.93 MB 13.84 GB 0.00
6 unnas 66.88 MB 61.16 GB 0.00
7 theladder2k 31.53 MB 28.69 GB 0.00
8 filfil 31.06 MB 25.11 GB 0.00
9 icculus723 18.53 MB 14.69 GB 0.00
10 Ryan 18.37 MB 13.44 GB 0.00

looks old Terrapin Food is still at it...:disbelief

[deadone]

well, if you take it that personally then it will be. If you still havent figured how to upload then it's your own fault. Ever tried uploading something yourself? That usually helps increasing your ratio instead of waiting for people to jump on old torrents... and as for your ratio, guess it's ok considering the amount. I was actually refering to people who download 500+gb and only uploaded say 50gb while their bandwidth should be able to upload lost in a short time. it all depends on how many torrents you upload yourself...

edit: and yes, I know how it's like to be stuck on shitty upload speeds. there's 2 ways to keep your ratio: upload yourself and dont download everything, but instead only the shit that you're really interested in... simple as that


ok, maybe i jumped the gun alittle so sorry about that.
i am a nice guy and didnt look like it the way my last message came out.

i get what you mean tho as alot here are taking liberties.

anyway as for uploading stuff. well to be honest even if i was to upload an audio show, 99.9% of the members here would prob have it anyway. like i said my connection aint the greatest and it would take ages for others to be able to dl it from me, only chance i have is to seed what i dl, but even that aint solving it, seems by the time i have dl it so has every 1 else.

any tips would b great tho.

again sorry for my last comments:thumbsup


edit, is there no ratio rule here, seems alot of people are well out of order

[mooncusser]

rule or no rule, good manners are always called for in life.
(that includes giving back an amount at least equal to what you take.)

[freezer]

rule or no rule, good manners are always called for in life.
(that includes giving back an amount at least equal to what you take.)

Too bad those "good manners" doesn't seem to include going out and actually recording the same amount of shows that are scarfed up...

Imagine what the trade pool could look like if you were expected to give back something fresh in return for every show that you take......

Or even ONE new and unique show for every 10 you took....

or just a measly ONE show per every 25 you took.....




Oh well, I was just saying something about what might a more perfect form of "sharing" might be imagined .........



Ain't nothing like that ever gonna happen in the real world, is it?

:hmm:

[glens]

Such as ComCast's data cap may at least keep people to leeching only ~250GB a month.....

[RetroDude83]

Ive been trading for many years and good manners is what it all is about. after every trade people would thank each other forsending the discs, most of the time people traded an equal amount of discs which is fine, the same rule should be applied at torrent sites I think.

I'm really pissed at the current trend on ttd and similar trackers for lossless recordings, people seem to forget how it all should help us aquiring new shows without paying big money for the postal services. I really dont mind if someone has uploaded only 10gb while he downloaded 20gb, no big deal as upload speeds can suck anus. but most of the time people with extremely shitty ratios(e.g 1gb up, 100gb down) are the first to jump off when they finished a download, which makes me really angry at some point. I'm getting more and more reluctant to seed any more shows myself these days, due to many thing that annoy me too much, inlcuding bloody asshole leechers.

that being said i reckon it's time to seed my latest master now... :wave:

[ccrider895]

I don't usually care about this thread, and what ratio people with 10 GB downloaded have, but i found this guy by accident, and he really deserves a mention.
How someone can have such a bad ratio, over 300 GBs d/led and not even thank a single person for uploading a show. :rolleyes:

What a dildo.

fry

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:disbelief

[hkdave]

NAZA
Downloaded: 22.64 GB Uploaded: 729.23 MB Ratio: 0.03

and if this is the same "Naza" from Tapecity don't let him anywhere near a vine!! if it is not the same user i apologise but shitty ratio nonetheless!

http://www.tapecity.net/showthread.php?t=19133&page=6

[vladsmythe]

NAZA
Downloaded: 22.64 GB Uploaded: 729.23 MB Ratio: 0.03

and if this is the same "Naza" from Tapecity don't let him anywhere near a vine!! if it is not the same user i apologise but shitty ratio nonetheless!

http://www.tapecity.net/showthread.php?t=19133&page=6 Let me just say that tapecity is a fine place with fine people. If hkdave says this guy is a loser, I'm convinced he is. Wait a minute...hkdave says I'm a loser too!:wtf: Miss you guys over there...maybe someday I'll be welcome again.:(

[possessed]

How can one person be such an ass for three and a half years and still have the audacity to post a trade list? If you can't share via the web, why would I snail mail trade with you? :disbelief

Greystoke
Join Date: 04-08-05
Total Posts: 12 (0.01 posts per day)
Downloaded: 247.94 GB Uploaded: 17.89 GB Ratio: 0.07

[mooncusser]

drclueful (http://www.thetradersden.org/forums/member.php?u=208929) http://www.thetradersden.org/forums/images/statusiconttd/user_offline.gif
256.28 GB/41.33 GB/0.16
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 4


nice ratio.
and only 4 posts.
been busy thanking the seeders, eh? :rolleyes:

[Toadinohio]

http://www.thetradersden.org/forums/member.php?u=105286
the_a
Join Date: 06-16-06
PostsTotal Posts: 0 (0 posts per day)
Downloaded: 1.15 TB Uploaded: 93.53 GB Ratio: 0.08

Just wanted to thank this fine member-
First to complete a dvd I taped and uploaded, then skipped right away.
No trades, no vines, just 100% leech
1.15 TB worth!!!

[Jesus Christ]

this is the biggest wanker on any of my torrents so far:
Geco123 (http://http://www.thetradersden.org/forums/member.php?u=55695)
a ratio of 0.06
he took that 11gig DVD i just uploaded the other day and gave back a few megabytes.
these are the types that need to be shamed.
bastards.

[freezer]

Here's another entry for your "hall of fame"

mauserman
13.21 GB/51.98 MB/0.00


Anyone wonder what excuses this "good trader" will come up with........




:lol4: :lol4: :lol4: :lol4: :lol4: :lol4: :lol4:

[dementrium]

2009 -- Ratio Police Officer: A New Side of Freezer

:coffee:

[GRC]

Here's another entry for your "hall of fame"

mauserman
13.21 GB/51.98 MB/0.00


Anyone wonder what excuses this "good trader" will come up with........

:lol4: :lol4: :lol4: :lol4: :lol4: :lol4: :lol4:

He's new, I think, and some of us have been chatting on technobabble with him about archiving shows to digital.

Just looks like nothing worse than being a newbie.... is there a problem?

[U2Lynne]

I think sometimes people just look at the ratio and not the actual stats. Those stats posted: 13.21 GB/51.98 MB/0.00 are vastly different than these: 130.21 GB/510.98 MB/0.00 He is a newbie and sometimes you download your first couple of shows and don't have any leechers to give back to.

[freezer]

Oh, is THAT all it is, well gee whilikers. And here I thought I could play in the sandbox with all of you 'old timers' by pointing out somebody else for you all to pound on, instead of Bill.

In that case, my bad and I apologize.

Now ol' demetrium can stop flittering and fluttering around the place.


I'll shut up now while you all gang up on vlad again. :wave:

[hugofuguzev]

...and living up to their nickname:

societalretard 464.00 KB (:wtf:) 10.18 GB 0.00

...and, carrying on the tradition of giving Zeppelin fans/collectors/traders a bad name everywhere:

stairwaytoheaven_2k 23.60 MB 22.10 GB 0.00

:disbelief

[TargetMassAppeal]

90125
Total Posts
7
Tracker Stats
729.93 GB/27.09 GB/0.04
Last Tracker Update
03-01-09 09:07 AM


further proof that Trevor Rabin ruined Yes.

[TargetMassAppeal]

I'm assuming you've met every hippie. :rolleyes: The ones worth knowing probably avoided your narc looking drug buying frat boy ass like the plague. Fucking dumb ass. :disbelief

BTW: Haters suck. That's the only reason I responded to assTarget"s post. :wave:


i came across this dated post and feel slightly compelled to straighten you out on a couple fronts:

-you claim that "haters suck" yet wax all homophobic ['ass target'] in the same sentence.

-you made some wild assumptions -- based on an earlier, obviously sarcastic post of mine -- that i'm a "narc" or a "frat boy," the latter of which i find completely hysterical because you'd never meet a person more NOT that type of character than me.

-i've likely spilled more pot than you have smoked and i'm gonna go out on a limb and say i probably did more psychedelics than the next guy.

-i've upped recently to TTD a crispy Grateful Dead SBD for all to enjoy; it's dated around the time you indicated was when you were seeing the Dead (which is also when i began seeing them; my 1st show was Hershey, PA 6/28/85, pre-Touch of Gray).

try not to hate me too much for it, i don't want to have to jump out of the bushes at anybody.

scott

[Ma98734]

Just to apologize, I'm sorry for all the things I've downloaded on this site and didn't gave back, I apologize for all damages I've done and apologies to all.

I try.

:(

[bannanna]

tweedydash7 :wtf: :disbelief :nono: ....only posting for seeds ?? anyway looks suss to me...see for yourself....... YEAH OK Im working on my own ratios etc:D

[mooncusser]

:popcorn:

[fisherofgold]

can't believe i just wasted precious moments doing this.....but listen to your selves...! be afraid....its only a few steps to ethnic cleansing.....au revoir.

[ep620]

can't believe i just wasted precious moments doing this.....but listen to your selves...! be afraid....its only a few steps to ethnic cleansing.....au revoir.

Did your mom drop you on your head when you were a baby? :lol4:

[uninvited94]

Exactly...on other trackers, you get thrown out for shitty ratio, not over here, so think a bit before posting.

[mooncusser]

can't believe i just wasted precious moments doing this.....but listen to your selves...! be afraid....its only a few steps to ethnic cleansing.....au revoir.
nice ratio
:stfu:

[mooncusser]

Vlad's ratio is down from his record high of 0.26 to 0.23 ... :disbelief

[dementrium]

Vlad's ratio is down from his record high of 0.26 to 0.23 ... :disbelief

Probably caused by yesterday's tracker outage but he will recover it soon :)

[mooncusser]

;).

[Karst]

Has a threshold (like on Dime) ever been considered here?

[AngelEyes]

can't believe i just wasted precious moments doing this.....but listen to your selves...! be afraid....its only a few steps to ethnic cleansing.....au revoir.

I draw the line at cleansing your anus . . . and no, I won't be seeing you again.

[daddyray]

:wtf:

[jabulon]

bradmf

Downloaded: 1.01 TB Uploaded: 37.31 GB Ratio: 0.04

and it seems little bradley is still at it:

bradmf (http://www.thetradersden.org/forums/member.php?u=153463)
Downloaded: 1.41 TB Uploaded: 43.47 GB Ratio: 0.03

the guy is still around and his ratio isn't climing

bradmf (http://www.thetradersden.org/forums/member.php?u=153463)
Join Date 02-02-07
Total Posts 10
Tracker Stats 3.77 TB/72.45 GB/0.02
Last Tracker Update05-01-09 06:02 PM
:hmm:

[itnAklipse]

i don't understand all the "unselfish" and "friendly" sharers who then complain if someone doesn't do the same thing. Life's about much more than making sure your upload ratio is high and thus getting a rubber stamp of approval from some people in an internet forum.

i try with how much i think is reasonable - i keep my dls seeding as long as i have disc space, but my connexion is not fast enough to be among the first to finish, and usually i jump on a new torrent kinda late so i almost never get the share to over 1 no matter how much i wait - on a few torrents i've managed. (Also it seems to me that for whatever reason, when someone is downloading, miraculously he might be getting at 10kbps from me when i'm alone seeding, but when someone else jumps on it his speed goes to 50 or whatever and my share of that is still only 10...no idea why, when i have 20-30kbps of free bandwidth.) And i've never jumped off a torrent with someone downloading where i'm the only seeder.

Even ppl who really won't share, probably have some inner reason for it, other than "being selfish assholes" - and so what if they don't? What's it to you? You really spend your life worrying about other people's doings and not-doings? Get a life. If they don't share that's their business and it's up to them to decide what to do with their lives. If you wanna share, share, if not, don't. Simple. i'm against all forms of fascism and socialism - and that's what forcing other people to submit to "reasonable guidelines" really comes down to - control.

Life is not, in any way shape or form about 1:1 ratio, in any respect on individual basis - if you can't figure that out, good luck with the rest of your life being a DECENT person. People who try to FORCE decency and goodwill are the most fascistic of all.

[rspencer]

The only people that ever make these kinds of excuses & arguments over ratio are those with one far below 1.0.

Just sayin'.

[fuzzybeard]

I am not so sure about that. Sometimes one can't judge simply by the "ratio" number. Especially if it is between .5 and 1, as in the post above.

I have a poor uplink. I constantly loose the ability to share back to those seeders with faster connections. I download unusual shows and few want them afterwards. On dime I have specialized to serving those torrents that everybody else has dropped as I tent to enjoy the more obscure things that quickly get dropped by most. so I serve about a couple of shows a week that I am the only seeder of. That is the only way I can keep an acceptable share ratio at all. I am still picking up more shows than I am able to share back (less then 1 ratio) but it would be a shame to pass on some that for sure will disappear for ever if I don't pick them up. I know this for sure. Once a year for 1 month I am on a fast connection (guess where, Germany has the best connections, lol). And then its obvious how I then have no problem to catch back up.

I am *not* a leacher. I have shared for 20 years. I have worn out numerous Dat machines running trees and doing B&Ps in datheads days. I keep all the shows in original form. Been lossless since day one. If doing B&P is a way for me to inprove my ratio, please I will do b&p no problems but credit would be nice. How do I go about this?

Now the tradersden domain name trouble:

I was busy and did not realize what happened. I thought my seeds had fallen of the tracker or ?? and deleted the torrentfiles and then I realized it was all the traderden files !!:wtf::hmm:
So then I found out the site was gone and rediscovered it. so now all my tradersden shows are disconnected and have moved to the backup drive. If anyone sees my offers to reconnect them and no one else is there to seed please drop me a mail with the torrent link and I will hook you up;)

Also thanks to the moderators from me for providing these places and dealing with the current troubles.

[Quackers]

ratio is a bitch :arrow:

[Homebrew101]

I am not so sure about that. Sometimes one can't judge simply by the "ratio" number. Especially if it is between .5 and 1, as in the post above.

I have a poor uplink. I constantly loose the ability to share back to those seeders with faster connections. I download unusual shows and few want them afterwards. On dime I have specialized to serving those torrents that everybody else has dropped as I tent to enjoy the more obscure things that quickly get dropped by most. so I serve about a couple of shows a week that I am the only seeder of. That is the only way I can keep an acceptable share ratio at all. I am still picking up more shows than I am able to share back (less then 1 ratio) but it would be a shame to pass on some that for sure will disappear for ever if I don't pick them up. I know this for sure. Once a year for 1 month I am on a fast connection (guess where, Germany has the best connections, lol). And then its obvious how I then have no problem to catch back up.




You might want to consider letting those obscure shows drop off the trackers and then reseed them 6 months later, you will get a better ratio for being the uploader and perhaps draw new interest to the obscure show.

[fuzzybeard]

Good advice, I am working on it.

[retired]

juampillus (http://www.thetradersden.org/forums/member.php?u=280964)
(185.65 GB/14.00 GB/0.08) :disbelief

[Stephenmagic]

Now that is really taking the piss :disbelief

[retired]

What a dildo.
fry 318.01 GB/ 12.28 GB/0.04
(1.13 TB/44.28 GB/0.04) :disbelief

[to be a rock]

I think sometimes people just look at the ratio and not the actual stats. Those stats posted: 13.21 GB/51.98 MB/0.00 are vastly different than these: 130.21 GB/510.98 MB/0.00 He is a newbie and sometimes you download your first couple of shows and don't have any leechers to give back to.

Yes, I'm a newbie too, but no one want the Led Zeppelin shows, because everyone here have it? :wave:

[Homebrew101]

stinkfister
Tracker Stats
Downloaded: 7.17 GB Uploaded: 630.75 MB Ratio: 0.09

Last Tracker Update: 10-18-09 07:32 PM



Oh, and happy b-day stinky :wave:

[retired]

wmg21 (http://www.thetradersden.org/forums/member.php?u=303809)
(549.26GB/92.00 GB/0.17) :disbelief

[mooncusser]

KINGCARGO (http://www.thetradersden.org/forums/member.php?u=317547) http://www.thetradersden.org/forums/images/statusiconttd/user_offline.gif
5.21 GB/369.90 MB/0.07

:disbelief

[LeonJackson]

That's the worst fucking ratio I've ever seen . . . .

Hey, Fry! :finger:

[mooncusser]

blackpsenior http://www.thetradersden.org/forums/images/statusiconttd/user_online.gif
462.53 GB/20.18 GB/0.04

[dcbullet]

blackpsenior http://www.thetradersden.org/forums/images/statusiconttd/user_online.gif
462.53 GB/20.18 GB/0.04

That's pretty bad. :disbelief

[daddyray]

honkeytonkman

1.00 TB/114.24 GB/0.11

I am doing a reseed on the stevie wonder beat club show n almost all of those swine have shit ratios...bunch of flaccid dicks

[shopkin]

without them i would'nt have such a great ratio........:lol: go figure.....

[daddyray]

I feel better now..thanks :disbelief :)

[shopkin]

:lol:

[ZJLI]

Just to apologize, I'm sorry for all the things I've downloaded on this site and didn't gave back, I apologize for all damages I've done and apologies to all.

I try.

:(

:lol4:
Apology accepted!!!!
:clap:

[tonebloke]

sharpiee09 (http://www.thetradersden.org/forums/member.php?u=320262) http://www.thetradersden.org/forums/images/statusiconttd/user_online.gif
102.64 GB/19.50 GB/0.19

[J.R. Ewing]

but ain't it ironic that it's nearly always the Uberleechers that are the only downloaders to say "thanks" !!:)

[sharpiee09]

sharpiee09 (http://www.thetradersden.org/forums/member.php?u=320262) http://www.thetradersden.org/forums/images/statusiconttd/user_online.gif
102.64 GB/19.50 GB/0.19

Hey man I am working on it. People are so angry on here:down::down::down::down:

[shopkin]

......People are so angry on here:down::down::down::down:

like this guy!!!! whoa!:wave:;)

I feel better now..thanks :disbelief :)

[tonebloke]

but ain't it ironic that it's nearly always the Uberleechers that are the only downloaders to say "thanks" !!:)

You're probably right JohnRoss but people need to know their limitations as to what they take and what they give. Just ask Sue-Ellen!

BTW: How is snowtown? My furnace is going great-guns.

[tonebloke]

Hey man I am working on it. People are so angry on here:down::down::down::down:

Not ALL of us are angry. Some of us just think that the No's should be a bit more even. I know it's easy to get carried away with getting stuff but we learn to moderate ourselves.

[sharpiee09]

Not ALL of us are angry. Some of us just think that the No's should be a bit more even. I know it's easy to get carried away with getting stuff but we learn to moderate ourselves.

Well like i said. Some of us first get here and see all of this great material ( especially vids like Beatles anthology) and have to get it. I mean, I had been looking for that for almost a year. As soon as I read the rules about ratios and all of that mess I started to be more careful. So its a learning process especially for those of us of who are new. Now if I had been here for a 6 months or something and never uploaded a thing that would be a different story right???

[peaktime]

Not ALL of us are angry. Some of us just think that the No's should be a bit more even. I know it's easy to get carried away with getting stuff but we learn to moderate ourselves.

But only if you're in the red. If you have uploaded more than you download, it can be lopsided as hell, and you're praised for it. 100 GB down / 5 TB up is commendable, right? Or should those numbers be more even as well so that some poor dsl user can upload his 15 kBps, and get back to 1/1? :hmm:

Ratios are obsolete in this era of huge bandwidth and great variety of speed options. :thumbsup

"Rescued Torrents" or something would be a better option. Show stats on how many times you've hopped back on torrents with no seeders in order to let the leechers complete.

[dcbullet]

As soon as I read the rules about ratios and all of that mess I started to be more careful.


There are no rules about ratios here.

[J.R. Ewing]

There are no rules about ratios here.and i believe that to be the correct approach.
DIME bans you from downloading if your ratio falls beneath 0.25; but look at their stats for downloaders who give back more than they download, and it's proportionately pretty bad.
it seems to me that creating a mandatory base-line encourages a lot of people to feel that they've done enough at 0.25.
the answer is to encourage an ego-war in which people that upload more than they download are revered beyond all logic; you'll see folk wearing their ratios like bling.

[tonebloke]

Well like i said. Some of us first get here and see all of this great material ( especially vids like Beatles anthology) and have to get it. I mean, I had been looking for that for almost a year. As soon as I read the rules about ratios and all of that mess I started to be more careful. So its a learning process especially for those of us of who are new. Now if I had been here for a 6 months or something and never uploaded a thing that would be a different story right???

Yes that would be a different story. I'm not saying everyone has to be 1/1 or more, it's just that some will sit on a small amount like .05 or whatever and not think of the rest.

[tonebloke]

Ratios are obsolete in this era of huge bandwidth and great variety of speed options.

Not everyone is in that position. You can't make that the be all and end all.

[tonebloke]

the answer is to encourage an ego-war in which people that upload more than they download are revered beyond all logic; you'll see folk wearing their ratios like bling.

Some people have ego's the size of the solar system but that doesn't change the way the torrent system works.Some would wear the bling, but probably only in their own eyes. It does not impress me that someone has uploaded 2TB and downloaded 50GB, just to use some numbers.
If someone has High Speed Internet and leaves there system on 24/7 their "ratio" would go through the roof. At least they give back.

I understand that we all start somewhere and need to learn the game but after awhile you get a sense of what to do - mostly.

[AAR.oner]

maybe the ratio-ego issue is simple...ratio is inversely proportional to penis size

[mooncusser]

or you can look at it like the need-a-penny tray
do you always take without leaving any?

[rspencer]

Ratios are obsolete in this era of huge bandwidth and great variety of speed options. :thumbsup


This isn't true. Many do not have huge bandwidth & massive upload speeds available to them.

And it's funny that statements like that are almost always made by those with low ratios.

[peaktime]

but many do, and it's this disparity in upload speeds that makes ratios obsolete. when things were more equal, and everyone had similar b/w and wasn't being throttled/hacked with sandvine, the field was more level, and ratios mattered more. but one fiber optic user these days can take away upload opportunities for dozens of cable and dsl users. if most had fiber and similar u/l speeds, ratios would be relevant again. time spent seeding and 'torrents rescued' make much more sense to emphasize now if mofos are gonna make judgments based on tracker effort.

[mdshrk1]

This isn't true. Many do not have huge bandwidth & massive upload speeds available to them.

And it's funny that statements like that are almost always made by those with low ratios.

I'm one of those w/o huge bandwidth & have this firewall thing that I can't figure out. Doesn't stop me.

:nono:

And, really I should have quoted peaktime sorry spencer.

[peaktime]

well, seeding 600+ shows and only downloading 20 GB helps a little too :D

that's not a knock or anything, it's a compliment...thanks so much for taping and sharing! :wave:

[rspencer]

I'm one of those w/o huge bandwidth & have this firewall thing that I can't figure out. Doesn't stop me.

:nono:

And, really I should have quoted peaktime sorry spencer.

It's OK, I realize you were too busy trying to build that weak ratio to quote correctly. :lol4:

[mdshrk1]

maybe the ratio-ego issue is simple...ratio is inversely proportional to penis size
Explains why mine keeps shrinking...thought it was from lack of use.

[LeonJackson]

Sure, FIOS or whatever might give you the chance to upload a ton, but not having major bandwidth shouldn't prohibit you from maintaining a halfway decent ratio. When I first joined TTD, I had a dialup modem for chrissakes, and I still managed to keep my ratio around 1.0. Ratios aren't about bragging rights; they're about sharing. This site is called the Traders' Den for a reason; you take, and you give back. You trade byte for byte. Or at least you should. Peeps who take, take, take, and don't give back are just pathetic, imho . . . :nono:

[mooncusser]

^ I like this.

[AAR.oner]

+1 :thumbsup

[peaktime]

it's simple math: as long as there are people sharing more than they take, there will be people who take more than they share. it's a symbiotic relationship, and a mathematical certainty.

but nobody's going to scold the oversharers :lol4:

You trade byte for byte. Or at least you should.

oops, spoke too soon. so the fiber optic user with 1 MBps u/l should shut down after reaching 1/1? :hmm:

if people with ratios under a certain number really burn your toast, maybe you should stop oversharing, as you're just making the situation worse.

or kick back, crack a brew, and enjoy the tunes instead of making something that's supposed to take us higher a stressed out competition. :cheers:

[LeonJackson]

You just don't get it, do you, Peaktime? My sharing more than 1.0 does not compel anyone else, either technologically or volitionally, to share less. Calling it "simple math" tells me that you know as little about math as you do about sharing. And the fact that you think I'm involved in a competition pretty much underscores your cluelessness. It's not about competing, man; it's about trying to do the right thing. Everyone shoud upload more or less what they download, at the very least. My sharing more doesn't mean that someone else should, or has to, share less. That's a bullshit excuse. But, then again, the leechers and douchebags always have an endless supply excuses. I mean, if we had an excuse ratio, you'd be in like flynn. Nuff said.

[peaktime]

it's ok, some people just aren't good at math :)

here's an example of a torrent being initially seeded with 100 leechers. some of those users will upload at 3 MBps, some at 1 MBps, some at 500 kBps, some at 250, some at 100, 50, 25, 15. Most people's download capabilities are much higher than their upload. The swarm starts and the race is on. By the time the torrent has been initially seeded, those with the highest rates will have given back 50 times, 10 times, 7 times, etc. more than they have taken, and those with the lowest will have ratios in the .10, .20, .30 range. And some of those really fast pipes may stick around to seed for another week or two. Some more leechers may join in, and then the torrent's popularity dies down a lot. Another torrent pops up, and the same 100 people are interested in it, and the same thing happens.

You can't have loads and loads of oversharers giving more than they take without people to give it to! And this comes at the expense of those with slower connections or who don't spend much time seeding. The overall ratio of a torrent community's members will be 1.0, which means that some will be higher, and some will be lower necessarily in order to balance out to 1.0. It's impossible for everyone to get to 1.0 or higher.

[rspencer]

You're assuming a finite number of leechers in a closed system. The situation is really open-ended. new people come in, new torrents go up.

Besides, there are enough hit-and-run asses that purposely don't seed back that there is plenty of mathematical room for those that want to seed back.

And this comes at the expense of those with slower connections or who don't spend much time seeding.

Biggest factor right there. Hs nothing to do with anyone's connection speed. If you don't stay on a torrent to seed it, obviously your ratio will not improve due to seeding.

[peaktime]

You're assuming a finite number of leechers in a closed system. The situation is really open-ended. new people come in, new torrents go up.

sure, you can always add more people and torrents, but when someone is swinging their big ratio and stats around and slapping someone for not having good numbers, they don't say, "hey, don't worry about it man, new people will join and hop on the torrents you've downloaded so you can improve your ratio. take your time." they say you're a selfish bastard who is ruining a once great site. :blahblah: and then proceed to slap around those newly joined people for leeching a bunch of shows without giving anything back right away.

Also, torrents die. If you're in the last batch of people to grab a torrent before it dies, you aren't uploading any more on that one.

Besides, there are enough hit-and-run asses that purposely don't seed back that there is plenty of mathematical room for those that want to seed back.really? there are plenty who love to park and seed and seed with their huge pipe that even if some people hit and run, it's still impossible for those with a slow connection who want to seed.

which statement is true depends what the numbers really are, and you didn't supply any...but neither did I.

And this comes at the expense of those with slower connections or who don't spend much time seeding.Biggest factor right there. Hs nothing to do with anyone's connection speed. If you don't stay on a torrent to seed it, obviously your ratio will not improve due to seeding.

yeah I knew this would be picked apart. for someone on the lower end of the b/w spectrum, it could take months and months of seeding just to break even. and some people don't have the patience, CPU/RAM, or drive space to seed dozens of torrents for months on end and just give up.

maybe you think that everyone should maintain a great ratio no matter what their connection is, but I don't.

I think the greater tragedy is that some average or low speed people maybe don't get all the shows they really want because they are worried about public opinion of their ratio. Meanwhile, someone with a fiber connection and a 189.07 ratio would be more than happy to hook them up with 30 minutes of their seeding time, but average speed person doesn't bother downloading because he's sitting on 4 other torrents that aren't uploading very much...and he's getting flack for his ratio after saying thanks in one of them.

[mdshrk1]

maybe you think that everyone should maintain a great ratio no matter what their connection is, but I don't.

No one is asking for a great ratio...just 1/1. Give as much as you take.

[mooncusser]

it really is amazing to see/read the very complex reasoning that some people apply to excuse themselves for being greedy and not paying back their fair share into the pool. it would be much more honest to just come right out and say "I'm greedy and/or lazy and would rather treat this as a download service that a sharing/trading site. Please do not expect me to stay connected 2 seconds after completing. And you're being rude for pointing out that I have a crappy ratio."
Posted via Mobile Device

[daddyray]

I know some noobs dig themselves a hole otherwise regardless of one's strained logic one is being greedy.....but I need lots since I trade em. my bandwidth hurts. I only like Zep.

BS

[rspencer]

Those with limited bandwidth are welcomed to do Vines or B&Ps to help others with even more limited bandwidth. It won't credit the ratio, but one is less likely to get "called out" if they've been "seeding" back that way.

[dcbullet]

I agree with peaktime and his analysis regarding members getting over 1:1. It does prevent others from getting to 1:1. If everyone would drop off when their ratio got to say, 1.1:1, then there wouldn't be as many 0.2:1 ratios.

However, I don't actually care about this so I don't drop off. I like getting a big ass ratio. Fuck everyone else. Muhhahahaha

[Homebrew101]

I agree with peaktime and his analysis regarding members getting over 1:1. It does prevent others from getting to 1:1. If everyone would drop off when their ratio got to say, 1.1:1, then there wouldn't be as many 0.2:1 ratios.

However, I don't actually care about this so I don't drop off. I like getting a big ass ratio. Fuck everyone else. Muhhahahaha

there is an ass ratio too? :ah::ah::ah::ah:

[ZJLI]

I agree with peaktime and his analysis regarding members getting over 1:1. It does prevent others from getting to 1:1. If everyone would drop off when their ratio got to say, 1.1:1, then there wouldn't be as many 0.2:1 ratios.

However, I don't actually care about this so I don't drop off. I like getting a big ass ratio. Fuck everyone else. Muhhahahaha

there is an ass ratio too? :ah::ah::ah::ah:

:lmao:

[peaktime]

I agree with peaktime and his analysis regarding members getting over 1:1. It does prevent others from getting to 1:1. If everyone would drop off when their ratio got to say, 1.1:1, then there wouldn't be as many 0.2:1 ratios.

However, I don't actually care about this so I don't drop off. I like getting a big ass ratio. Fuck everyone else. Muhhahahaha

:lol4::lol4: :clap:

[J.R. Ewing]

maybe the ratio-ego issue is simple...ratio is inversely proportional to penis sizeyeah...
so the thread becomes: Name and Shame Users With Small Dicks.
that would be more in keeping with the times, for sure.

[J.R. Ewing]

my bandwidth hurts. I only like Zep.at least you finally admit it, homeboy!BSoh, damn, you were foolin' around!:)

[peaktime]

maybe the ratio-ego issue is simple...ratio is inversely proportional to penis sizeyeah...
so the thread becomes: Name and Shame Users With Small Dicks.
that would be more in keeping with the times, for sure.

He's saying that what they lack in junk size they make up for with a big beefy ratio. To put it into the vernacular of an oilman like yourself: it's kinda like getting a white '59 Caddy convertible with longhorn steer horns as a hood ornament if you just ain't getting it done in the bedroom.

[peaktime]

it really is amazing to see/read the very complex reasoning that some people apply to excuse themselves for being greedy and not paying back their fair share into the pool. it would be much more honest to just come right out and say "I'm greedy and/or lazy and would rather treat this as a download service that a sharing/trading site. Please do not expect me to stay connected 2 seconds after completing. And you're being rude for pointing out that I have a crappy ratio."
Posted via Mobile Device

"Give back what you take" is a nice little simplistic slogan that doesn't take into account several factors. It is easier to remember a nice little bumper sticker phrase, though, than to put some actual contemplative thought into what is a complex issue. ;)

[mooncusser]

such as?
if you mean the rationale of "I have slow bandwidth but still want to download all this stuff" you won't find sympathy from a lot of people.
that sounds an awful lot like "I don't earn a lot of money but I'd like that brand new Mercedes SLK."
either go slower, do b&p's or weeds/vines so you don't use ratio,
or download all you want and ignore the criticism.
those who argue with the criticism are aware that a crap ratio is the downloader's responsibility and not the fault of "the system."
(but they'll keep trying to justify it)
Posted via Mobile Device

[AAR.oner]

it really is amazing to see/read the very complex reasoning that some people apply to excuse themselves for being greedy and not paying back their fair share into the pool. it would be much more honest to just come right out and say "I'm greedy and/or lazy and would rather treat this as a download service that a sharing/trading site. Please do not expect me to stay connected 2 seconds after completing. And you're being rude for pointing out that I have a crappy ratio."
Posted via Mobile Device

"Give back what you take" is a nice little simplistic slogan that doesn't take into account several factors. It is easier to remember a nice little bumper sticker phrase, though, than to put some actual contemplative thought into what is a complex issue. ;)
i had no problem keeping a decent ratio even when on aol dial up...and now, my u/l speeds are limited to ~40k/s which is by no means speedy compared to a lot of high speed users, and i u/l more than my fair share no problem

all that aside, we do have a Vine and B&P forum that a lot of users who can't u/l still give back by offering up shows there...no excuse not to share, just sayin

[peaktime]

such as?

Why bother at this point? If you can't be bothered to address any of the many points that I and others have already made, then I'm not going to keep hammering away. You've got your bumper sticker and you like it.

if you mean the rationale of "I have slow bandwidth but still want to download all this stuff" you won't find sympathy from a lot of people. that sounds an awful lot like "I don't earn a lot of money but I'd like that brand new Mercedes SLK."

The problem here is that you are comparing something that must be acquired via a commercial transaction with something that is freely traded or given away for free.

either go slower, do b&p's or weeds/vines so you don't use ratio,
or download all you want and ignore the criticism.
those who argue with the criticism are aware that a crap ratio is the downloader's responsibility and not the fault of "the system."
(but they'll keep trying to justify it)
Posted via Mobile Device

No, I'm not aware that a crap ratio is always the downloader's responsibility, guess you haven't been keeping up with the discussion. You keep wanting to justify your unwavering "1:1 or you're a thief" viewpoint, while refusing to even acknowledge that viewpoints other than your own even exist.

Isn't it possible that there are users with very fast upload speeds who don't give a shit about others' ratios, and love to contribute to the site with their bandwidth? Imagine that, huh? All they are concerned with is distributing as many copies of the show as possible, and consider themselves fortunate to have their fast connection to be able to help out their fellow fans.

[peaktime]

i had no problem keeping a decent ratio even when on aol dial up...and now, my u/l speeds are limited to ~40k/s which is by no means speedy compared to a lot of high speed users, and i u/l more than my fair share no problem

all that aside, we do have a Vine and B&P forum that a lot of users who can't u/l still give back by offering up shows there...no excuse not to share, just sayin

There are always going to be a certain number of people who no matter how slow their connection speed, will always maintain a 1:1 ratio for whatever reason. e.g. it could be personal pride, or it could be not wanting to hear criticism. Curious...how many DVDs did you d/l over dial up? :lol:

Nothing wrong with vines and B&Ps if you're on dial up, have a small b/w cap, or just can't find certain shows any other way. Why use an old school trading method like snail mail if you don't have to? imo

[Homebrew101]

The problem here is that you are comparing something that must be acquired via a commercial transaction with something that is freely traded or given away for free.


:nono: remember, nothing in life is free

even in the olden snail mail trading days there was a cost for tapes/postage, now this hobby has evolved but there is still the cost for of ISP

at least sharpie009 has increased his ratio but yours has been forever stuck at 0.30 :hmm:

maybe you're more of a :pw: than a collector, that's OK too :wave:

[peaktime]

the best things in life are free. remember? :cool:

:D :pw: :lol4::lol4:

[Pottel]

just realised this thread was started by the now late Koolkat...
Rip KK...

[mooncusser]

the best things in life are free. remember?

that excludes teh interwebs

Why bother at this point? :blahblah:
The problem here is that you are comparing something that must be acquired via a commercial transaction with something that is freely traded or given away for free.

why bother, indeed? you feel entitled to do whatever you want because it's the internet.
don't worry, you're not the first
(and it might be considered free in terms of money exchanging hands, but it's not free in terms of other peoples effort and time)


No, I'm not aware that a crap ratio is always the downloader's responsibility, guess you haven't been keeping up with the discussion. You keep wanting to justify your unwavering "1:1 or you're a thief" viewpoint, while refusing to even acknowledge that viewpoints other than your own even exist.

I fully acknowledge other viewpoints exist, but I specifically disagree with yours.


Isn't it possible that there are users with very fast upload speeds who don't give a shit about others' ratios, and love to contribute to the site with their bandwidth? Imagine that, huh? All they are concerned with is distributing as many copies of the show as possible, and consider themselves fortunate to have their fast connection to be able to help out their fellow fans.

Deflecting attention? Another tactic of someone who knows their position is weak. The seeders aren't the issue - unless you want to be one of those silly wanks who complains that your ratio can't improve because other people seed too much. The issue is people who take more than they give back.

It is nice to see you put a value on what seeders provide, though. Even though it's more rationalizing of your entitled take-what-I-want approach. How about the next person who wants the show? Are you gonna hop on and seed for them? Or are you going to leave it to someone else? We both know the answer to that.

There are always going to be a certain number of people who no matter how slow their connection speed, will always maintain a 1:1 ratio for whatever reason. e.g. it could be personal pride, or it could be not wanting to hear criticism. Curious...how many DVDs did you d/l over dial up? :lol:

so what if you had no internet connection at all? would that mean seeders should send you discs at their expense? (just going with an absurd extension of your logic)

Nothing wrong with vines and B&Ps if you're on dial up, have a small b/w cap, or just can't find certain shows any other way. Why use an old school trading method like snail mail if you don't have to? imo
So you're basically admitting that you're lazy and impatient.

It's OK, we can get through this together. :wave:

[peaktime]

why bother, indeed? you feel entitled to do whatever you want because it's the internet.
don't worry, you're not the first
(and it might be considered free in terms of money exchanging hands, but it's not free in terms of other peoples effort and time)

No, I know how the system works. I passed sixth grade math.

Deflecting attention? Another tactic of someone who knows their position is weak. The seeders aren't the issue - unless you want to be one of those silly wanks who complains that your ratio can't improve because other people seed too much. The issue is people who take more than they give back.You're one of those silly wanks who conveniently forgets or never read what was posted only 2 pages ago. Which is why it's dumb to keep this going.

It is nice to see you put a value on what seeders provide, though. Even though it's more rationalizing of your entitled take-what-I-want approach. How about the next person who wants the show? Are you gonna hop on and seed for them? Or are you going to leave it to someone else? We both know the answer to that.

I proposed the idea of a 'rescued torrents' statistic, which would be added to someone's stats if they revive a torrent with no seeders and help stranded leechers complete. I also proposed a 'time seeded' stat, which would indicate that someone is making an effort to seed, even if there are few or no leechers on a torrent. It was mentioned above that some people "don't want to seed." OK, so how does one know who wants to seed and who doesn't? Someone with a low ratio could be seeding some obscure, unpopular shows for months, but since this doesn't show up statistically, they'll still get smacked around for their ratio, with enlightened comments like this: "nice ratio douche! yeah, you're really making an effort to seed."

Interesting that you single minded data transfer neanderthals don't have any comment about that. It'll be about the raw upload and download numbers, and only those numbers until BT is no longer used.

so what if you had no internet connection at all? would that mean seeders should send you discs at their expense? (just going with an absurd extension of your logic)

Should they? No, you're missing the whole point....some people offer freebies with no strings. Maybe you think that freebies are absurd, or that those who send them are suckers for not getting anything in return...others call it generosity. As long as people are offering freebies, there will be people who will take them. You're acting like I'm demanding free stuff, or demanding more than I'm entitled to. Au contraire, I'm receiving a gift from people happy to give that gift. From the looks of your ratio, you like giving gifts as well.....or do you just use that big ratio as a cudgel to beat a guilt trip into n00bs who don't fully understand BT yet? :disbelief

So you're basically admitting that you're lazy and impatient.

It's OK, we can get through this together. :wave:

Of course! The whole point of all of these rebuttals is to finally admit that I'm lazy and impatient, and that everyone can get to 1:1 no matter how slow their connection is...you just have to work hard enough. :imslow:

but, but, but!

http://thelastword.co.in/images/the%20last%20word%20mast%20head_white%20copy.jpg

you must haves it!

[J.R. Ewing]

Peaktime may have a bad ratio, but i don't give a rat's ass about that; the guy is a cool dude, making many fun contributions to The Lounge.
Pervesely, some of the biggest assholes i've come across have possessed superb ratios.
sorry, guys, i'm just not prepared to allow such trivial conditions to design my Christmas Card List.
Taking is an expression of appreciation, and appreciation is has an intrinsic tangential relationship with love. you could say that appreciation is an aspect of love.
when someone hits and runs on one of my uploads, i actually experience orgasm; but that's another thread.
i think it's great when people take music, because it validates the giving of the music.
and as i said before: it's nearly always the cats with the trashy ratios that take the time to say thanks!
Gratitude is also an aspect of love.
if you love the music, take it and give thanks. it could be that when you share the damn stuff back, you wind up sharing the music with someone that doesn't even know how to decode a FLAC file anyhow.

[peaktime]

Brilliant, J.R.!!! Wonderful, absolutely wonderful! :lol4: :wolfkat::love::rock:

In the immortal words of Boston:

Rock and roll band
Everybody's waitin'
Gettin' crazy
Anticipating love and music
Play, play, play, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah

And Mooncusser, while we may not see eye to eye on this, I enjoy your humorous lounge posts. :wave:

[mdshrk1]

you wind up sharing the music with someone that doesn't even know how to decode a FLAC file anyhow.


Isn't that when they shoot at airplanes w/antiaircraft guns, or is that too old-school?:taunt:

[J.R. Ewing]

Isn't that when they shoot at airplanes w/antiaircraft guns, or is that too old-school?:taunt:that's right. blistering shards of red-hot metal showering the plane from all directions. rear-gunners were often decapitated.
the old-fashioned stuff is often the best.

[rspencer]

that's right. blistering shards of red-hot metal showering the plane from all directions. rear-gunners were often decapitated.
the old-fashioned stuff is often the best.

Sounds like a torrent Alex & possessed would be interested in. ;)

[AAR.oner]

There are always going to be a certain number of people who no matter how slow their connection speed, will always maintain a 1:1 ratio for whatever reason. e.g. it could be personal pride, or it could be not wanting to hear criticism. Curious...how many DVDs did you d/l over dial up? :lol:

Nothing wrong with vines and B&Ps if you're on dial up, have a small b/w cap, or just can't find certain shows any other way. Why use an old school trading method like snail mail if you don't have to? imo

so basically its "whine whine excuse excuse i'm a greedy leecher" huh? when its really that you just don't care about sharing back :rolleyes:


not too mention the part about you havin crappy internet access...i wouldn't call cable/DSL speeds so slow you can't u/l back ;) yer just a greedy leecher, admit it and move on

[dcbullet]

so basically its "whine whine excuse excuse i'm a greedy leecher" huh? you really just don't care about sharing back :rolleyes:

freezer? :lol4:

[AAR.oner]

ya had to go and say it, didn't ya dc? now he'll be in here arguing about Led Zep tapes :lol:

[mooncusser]

kinda like saying "Candyman" :hide:
Posted via Mobile Device

[J.R. Ewing]

one thing the Freezer ain't got to worry about is people having a gripe with his ratio.:thumbsup

[mdshrk1]

Now here's the kind of ass that needs to be shamed. Posted on one of the Jeff Beck torrents.

Thank you, but my ears only listen
to 48 BIT-VERSIONS !
Any help or tracker where to find it ?

Thank you

RAMMY

rammsfeld
NAGGISCHSCÄNNER von DAD
167.43 GB/44.97 GB/0.27

[rspencer]

What he needs help in is knowing the difference between bit-depth & sampling rate. :disbelief

[J.R. Ewing]

Thank you, but my ears only listen
to 48 BIT-VERSIONS !
he listens with his ears????
what else would he listen with? his godamn friggin' dick??

[ccrider895]

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c231/ccrider895/whats-going-o.jpg

[lintoni]

he listens with his ears????
what else would he listen with? his godamn friggin' dick??

Why not? I've been accused of thinking with mine.

[mdshrk1]

Why not? I've been accused of thinking with mine.

Most males have had the same accusations made about them. :wave:

[J.R. Ewing]

i've been accused of worse.
i use a good ratio to deflect from my most glowering faults.

[mooncusser]

frankstreber
142.77 GB/6.42 GB/0.04



one single post, and it's to bitch

[shopkin]

i've been accused of worse.
i use a good ratio to deflect from my most glowering faults.

you and a few other people around here.......:lol::wave:

[hugofuguzev]

...from the Home Office in beautiful downtown Cherryville, top ten uberleechers for March 4, 2010:

1 guitrman 80.00 KB 13.07 GB 0.00
2 ooo1john 335.75 KB 15.11 GB 0.00
3 hyborian 432.00 KB 17.51 GB 0.00
4 moonloop5 768.00 KB 15.18 GB 0.00
5 skelos 1.88 MB 37.73 GB 0.00
6 karden9 1.34 MB 11.35 GB 0.00
7 beardedpage 2.11 MB 14.10 GB 0.00
8 terrapin_food 20.31 MB 87.74 GB 0.00
9 ritalinchild16 2.73 MB 11.53 GB 0.00
10 poktrokt29 4.13 MB 12.99 GB 0.00

I believe ol' terrapin has been outed before...still at it, eh?:cool:

[havrefras]

I got this message from peter pint:

how cam i take a look on your list to make a wish?
thx
peter.

Downloaded: 12.10 GB Uploaded: 63.11 MB Ratio: 0.01

[mdshrk1]

I got this message from peter pint:

how cam i take a look on your list to make a wish?
thx
peter.

Downloaded: 12.10 GB Uploaded: 63.11 MB Ratio: 0.01


:bop: :wtf:

[daddyray]

blackpsenior
506.62 GB/21.30 GB/0.04

[ZJLI]

blackpsenior
506.62 GB/21.30 GB/0.04

:rolleyes: Stick to telling us everything there is to know about music....

[shopkin]

:lol:

[ZJLI]

:vino:

:lol:

[3hrsoflunacy]

halo
31.77 GB/2.75 GB/0.09


:disbelief

[jabulon]

Still going strong.....

bradmf (http://www.thetradersden.org/forums/member.php?u=153463)

Downloaded: 6.59 TB Uploaded: 100.91 GB Ratio: 0.01

Last Tracker Update: 04-26-10 06:54 AM

[fubar]

Overflow Error

[Homebrew101]

zafreth1

Join Date 03-07-09

57.81 GB/3.75 GB/0.06

[zafreth1]

zafreth1

Join Date 03-07-09

57.81 GB/3.75 GB/0.06


I will improve my ratio, i promise to do that, sorry.

:thumbsup

[jabulon]

laidback2
28.61 GB/1.55 GB/0.05

[Shadesofcraig]

Wow I thought my ratio was bad, this thread makes me feel a lot better. :) The only reason why mine is so out of whack, I can download at like 300KB/sec but I can only upload at 40KB/sec... Would love to change that somehow... How do these guys with such a fast upload speed do it?

[rspencer]

I maintained mine downloading at 700k & uploading at 40k. Then actually increased it slightly d/l at 1.3M while uploading at 130k. :dunno:

[Homebrew101]

Wow I thought my ratio was bad, this thread makes me feel a lot better. :) The only reason why mine is so out of whack, I can download at like 300KB/sec but I can only upload at 40KB/sec... Would love to change that somehow... How do these guys with such a fast upload speed do it?

that's exactly how my connection is, you just have to leave them seed longer or grab them earlier so you can seed for others while there is the initial high traffic on a torrent

[rspencer]

Or seed new shows or shows not currently on the tracker. That's the easiest, most efficient way.

[jeeweewee]

babu11 (http://www.thetradersden.org/forums/member.php?u=308420)
Downloaded: 547.46 GB Uploaded: 8.53 GB Ratio: 0.02
Last Tracker Update: 05-31-10 08:49 PM

[general eclectic]

http://www.thetradersden.org/forums/customprofilepics/profilepic296950_1.gif zafreth1 http://www.thetradersden.org/forums/images/statusiconttd/user_online.gif


Tracker Stats96.53 GB/12.18 GB/0.13

[zafreth1]

thanks for remind me my shitty ratio.

[AAR.oner]

keep seeding shows and you'll get it up to a more acceptable level :thumbsup

[Homebrew101]

thanks for remind me my shitty ratio.

frequent the Lounge and all might be forgiven ;)

[to be a rock]

hmarco2 hmarco2 is offline
88.10 GB/935.92 MB/0.01

Join Date: Jun 2009


What is that??? Only one post, respect!

[retired]

weller (http://www.thetradersden.org/forums/member.php?u=10577)
(1.55 TB/99.81 GB/0.06) :disbelief

[tonebloke]

thanks for remind me my shitty ratio.

You have been reminded more than once Alberto.

[bluzman]

frequent the Lounge and all might be forgiven ;)

...or not.

[greendude]

Either enforce a ratio, or shut up. This isn't high school. Who has the best clothes? Who's the coolest? That's what this remind's me of, a bunch of bullies exposing those who have less. :nono: :down:

[mooncusser]

nice ratio :D

[greendude]

Thanks!!! I'm glad you like it. :D

[AAR.oner]

always bullshit excuses...just upload yer fair share folks, easy & simple as that

[Homebrew101]

Either enforce a ratio, or shut up. This isn't high school. Who has the best clothes? Who's the coolest? That's what this remind's me of, a bunch of bullies exposing those who have less. :nono: :down:

I wonder why I never see anyone post like that with a great ratio :hmm:


Canadians :rolleyes:







:hide:

[kingjman]

I agree with greenfunk.....

enforce a ratio

[greendude]

What exactly did i say? :hmm: :nono: I think most leechers are ignoring this ridiculous thread. I'm surprised that the Trader's Den staff allow this to go on. This site has no ratio requirements, yet the staff let's member's belittle other members. Great community guys.

[AAR.oner]

or you could upload yer fair share because its the right thing to do, instead of being required to do it

[tonebloke]

or you could upload yer fair share because its the right thing to do, instead of being required to do it


Here Here !!!!!!!!!!!

[ZJLI]

I agree with greenfunk.....

Me too!

Fuck the whiny bitches :spank:

[Mbzepfan]

http://www.thetradersden.org/forums/customprofilepics/profilepic296950_1.gif zafreth1 http://www.thetradersden.org/forums/images/statusiconttd/user_online.gif


Tracker Stats96.53 GB/12.18 GB/0.13

Oh, cut him some slack, man. You really don't know about shitty latin American ISP's until you've experienced one. Chill.

I'm all against share ratio enforcement, it takes away the opportunities of so many users from developing/third world countries. Tracker admins should really get off their thrones and show some sympathy for us.

[AAR.oner]

Why is it they have no problem downloading hundreds of gigs, but can't upload at all? Seems a little suspicious I'd say

And as we've pointed out numerous times, there's other ways to "give back" if ya don't have decent u/l speeds -- they can easily offer B&Ps or freebies via snail mail for new traders

Otherwise it just sounds like a lot of gimme gimme excuses...just sayin

[Mbzepfan]

You are aware of the existence of asymmetrical internet connections, right? Direct result of that, and it magnifies even more with such slow speeds.

At that speed everything factors in, time, speed, power bills, the choice of torrents you seed and predicting their popularity outcome. Everything. It's simply not fair to seed your torrent at max speed (mine used to be 7kb/s) just to see the other seed get your peer done in 30 minutes. I had to seed for 5+ days straight just to get it to 1:1, and hope that no one would lend a hand. :lol: I did all to keep my ratios up, seeding strategies (get it early, seed later, looking at the personalities of potential downloaders, just to be there when they connected, etc), everything. I went great lengths to get a proper ratio, and never could.

It's simply not fair. As for B&P, sure, but it really depends on your personal circumstances. Mine are specially annoying, exchange rates, poor (or no) mail system, lack of appropriate recordable media at decent prices, and let's not take away the fact that I'm a poor student with a Zeppelin fixation to begin with.

You got no idea until you live here.

[rspencer]

We should start charging for excess apostrophes.

[tonebloke]

We should start charging for excess apostrophes.

:roflol::roflol::roflol:

[Mbzepfan]

We should start charging for excess apostrophes.

:lol: :clap: My biggest grammar flaw, so far.

[tonebloke]

:lol: :clap: My biggest grammar flaw, so far.

A man who admits to his flaws / mistakes. Good show old man.:thumbsup:cheers:

[Tappy]

You are aware of the existence of asymmetrical internet connections, right? Direct result of that, and it magnifies even more with such slow speeds.

At that speed everything factors in, time, speed, power bills, the choice of torrents you seed and predicting their popularity outcome. Everything. It's simply not fair to seed your torrent at max speed (mine used to be 7kb/s) just to see the other seed get your peer done in 30 minutes. I had to seed for 5+ days straight just to get it to 1:1, and hope that no one would lend a hand. :lol: I did all to keep my ratios up, seeding strategies (get it early, seed later, looking at the personalities of potential downloaders, just to be there when they connected, etc), everything. I went great lengths to get a proper ratio, and never could.

It's simply not fair. As for B&P, sure, but it really depends on your personal circumstances. Mine are specially annoying, exchange rates, poor (or no) mail system, lack of appropriate recordable media at decent prices, and let's not take away the fact that I'm a poor student with a Zeppelin fixation to begin with.

You got no idea until you live here.

Who cares about predicting the popularity of a torrent or seeding strategies? Just seed!! If you left that torrent open you seeded for 10+ days instead of just 5+ you might of had a ratio of 2:1, thus increasing your ratio even more. And whats with this complaining about exchange rates for b&p's? You get blank discs in exchange to cover the costs for sending shows to people which covers you lame excuse of not being able to get "appropriate recordable media at decent prices". Stop your complaining and seed!!!

[bannanna]

Re: Eddie Van Halen xxxx-xx-xx Compilation (NTSC) (RESEED)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Quote:
Originally Posted by janispuka
nobody seeds? why?

Quote:
Originally Posted by trentnaka
Why don't you ask yourself the same question? You have downloaded 58 gigs and seeded almost nothing back. I've never seen such a pathetic ratio

:wtf: @ 15 aug 2010.( 516.67 GB/2.00 GB/0.00 ) :lmao:

[mdshrk1]

What exactly did i say? :hmm: :nono: I think most leechers are ignoring this ridiculous thread. I'm surprised that the Trader's Den staff allow this to go on. This site has no ratio requirements, yet the staff let's member's belittle other members. Great community guys.

Seems just like any community I've ever been part of. Got to find someone to beat up on...Why not YOU? :horse::bop:

greenfunk
46.45 GB/22.20 GB/0.48

[greendude]

If that's the way you feel, i guess i won't bother seeding anything anymore. If you don't like it...TOUGH!!! ;)

[rspencer]

It's not as if you bothered that much before, either. :D

[greendude]

Now i won't bother at all. :D

[AAR.oner]

there's a surprise

[greendude]

there's a surprise

It shouldn't be. What did you think would happen when you all started showing contempt for other members? :rolleyes:

[AAR.oner]

it wasn't, same response we usually get from leeches...and nor is yer searching for a justification not to share back what ya rightfully should...no one's shown contempt, just pointed out obvious facts...and if ya don't like the facts, then do something about it to change those facts



same could be said of hundreds of other members...point being -- don't just d/l a ton of ish and not share back...leave yer torrents running for a few weeks after you've d/l'ed, or even months if thats what it takes...and for that *very* small percentage who *truly* do have bandwidth issues, offer B&Ps or vine the shows...simple as that

[greendude]

I've always had the intention to raise my ratio, and i have been over the past few months. I've only downloaded 46 GB and i've uploaded 22 GB. Do i really deserve to be labeled an uberleecher, the only reason my ratio is where it's at, is because i downloaded older torrents when i first signed up, had i known it would be an issue i would have stuck to newer torrents. Every new torrent i download i seed to a 1.2 or a 1.3. If this business of ratios really bothers so many people, you should enforce a ratio, then you can delete this retarded thread. It seems mean spirited to run a site without ratio requirements, only to have a thread shaming people for not having a good ratio.

[Thulani]

WTF? They named you uberleecher? Big deal.

[daddyray]

fuck em all...and good afternoon

[mdshrk1]

My point was that if it wasn't you, because you basically volunteered, it would be someone else. Mostly, actually go for those under 0.10. :nono:

[ZJLI]

Outside of anything in The Lounge,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, This thread is the biggest wast of space on the internetzz.
Just close it so all the :cool: cool mods can post in it after it is closed.

:piss: :wook: :dance:

[ZJLI]

+:wave:

[3hrsoflunacy]

Oh, cut him some slack, man. You really don't know about shitty latin American ISP's until you've experienced one. Chill.

I'm all against share ratio enforcement, it takes away the opportunities of so many users from developing/third world countries. Tracker admins should really get off their thrones and show some sympathy for us.

Hey Mr. Led Zep Fan Venezuela,

It's a good thing all the people with .13 ratios don't sign up for new accounts in an attempt to start over. :wave:

Personally, I don't care about people's ratios, but they often:
1. Hit and run torrents
2. Do the most bitching in threads, and
3. Have the biggest gimme-gimme attitude.

So, that's why they usually aren't cut any slack. Finally, when you have a crappy ratio at lots of sites (Dime, R-O, here, etc.), here's a thought - Download less! I know plenty of people in non-Latin American countries with slow internet that have decent ratios. Live within your means.

3hrs.

[Quackers]

Hey Mr. Led Zep Fan Venezuela,

It's a good thing all the people with .13 ratios don't sign up for new accounts in an attempt to start over. :wave:

Personally, I don't care about people's ratios, but they often:
1. Hit and run torrents
2. Do the most bitching in threads, and
3. Have the biggest gimme-gimme attitude.



two pros and one con in my book