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GRC
2020-05-02, 11:13 AM
I have a number of multi-channel discs in my collection, and a DVD/SACD player with multi-channel analogue outs Front L, Rear R, Centre, etc. as Phono/RCA sockets.

I want to get each channel onto my PC and loaded into Audacity, as separate tracks within that app.

I have a standalone Tascam solid-state recorder, so I could make three passes of the disc, to record front, rear and centre, then load them up in three imports to Audacity, and split the stereo tracks, but I would then have to make adjustments to synchronise them as there's no guarantee I would hit record at the same point on each

The only other ways I can see are to get a multi-channel soundcard, with 5.1 inputs, and use Audacity to record in real time from that, or some kind of USB solution, where Audacity would take a feed from input at a USB port.

Suggestions?

Five
2020-05-02, 06:28 PM
GRC there should be some application listed on videohelp.com that can help you out

post back if you're having trouble finding it and i can help more

paulcook
2020-05-03, 03:31 AM
Hi there if I understand your post correctly , you are trying to rip multi channel discs to your pc in the same way as ripping an audio cd ?

your options are to use either

DVD-Audio explorer ( https://www.videohelp.com/software/DVD-Audio-Explorer )

Foobar2000 ( https://www.foobar2000.org/ )

both of these apps can rip the audio to a pc as a wav file.

you could then use Simple Wav Splitter to split the wav file into each stem (L,R,C,LFE,LS,RS) etc

( https://www.softpedia.com/get/Multimedia/Audio/Audio-Editors-Recorders/SimpleWavSplitter.shtml )

hope this helps , PM me if you more help / clarifications

GRC
2020-05-03, 06:10 AM
Hi there if I understand your post correctly , you are trying to rip multi channel discs to your pc in the same way as ripping an audio cd ?

your options are to use either

DVD-Audio explorer ( https://www.videohelp.com/software/DVD-Audio-Explorer )

Foobar2000 ( https://www.foobar2000.org/ )

both of these apps can rip the audio to a pc as a wav file.

you could then use Simple Wav Splitter to split the wav file into each stem (L,R,C,LFE,LS,RS) etc

( https://www.softpedia.com/get/Multimedia/Audio/Audio-Editors-Recorders/SimpleWavSplitter.shtml )

hope this helps , PM me if you more help / clarifications

Thank You

OK, I've got Foobar, so will give that a go for the DVD-A, but without an SACD-compatible drive, I'm stuck for those using this method...

Next quest may be to look for an SACD-compatible drive for the PC ...

Uncle Samīs Army
2020-05-04, 08:20 AM
DVD-A and SACD-R iso-files can be played in Foobar with the appropriate plug-ins. So you don't need a SACD-R drive for your PC (there is no such thing!), but you can burn the iso-files (DVD blank) and play them in drives that accept DVDA/SACD burned this way. Since the SACD-R is ripped with the Playstation, the Playstation can also play back the SACD-R files (probably the cheapest SACD-R device available).

GRC
2020-05-06, 07:37 PM
DVD-A and SACD-R iso-files can be played in Foobar with the appropriate plug-ins. So you don't need a SACD-R drive for your PC (there is no such thing!), but you can burn the iso-files (DVD blank) and play them in drives that accept DVDA/SACD burned this way.

That's great, thanks, but I have the means to play them as is. I have a standalone DVD/SACD player in the HiFi setup. I don't need to play the iso files

As stated in the OP, I'm looking for methods to get the separate channels into Audacity so I can play around with them separately.

Uncle Samīs Army
2020-05-07, 06:23 AM
Can your player also play self-burned DVDA/SACD?

GRC
2020-05-07, 07:12 AM
That's great, thanks, but I have the means to play them as is. I have a standalone DVD/SACD player in the HiFi setup. I don't need to play the iso files

As stated in the OP, I'm looking for methods to get the separate channels into Audacity so I can play around with them separately.

Sorry, I should expand on this - the standalone player is connected to the HiFi, which is 2-channel Stereo. If I play DVD-A or SACD on that, it's a hi-res 2-channel mix.

The DVD-A and SACD discs also have surround-sound mixes on them, and I want to extract the stem tracks from these as separate tracks in order to play around on Audacity.

I have no self-burned DVD-A or SACD

Uncle Samīs Army
2020-05-07, 07:19 AM
I had already understood your configuration and also your original wish. :)
In my opinion, WaveLab can import DVDA directly, so it should also be possible to extract the individual channels. Actually, Foobar should be able to do that as well.

GRC
2020-05-07, 07:29 AM
I've used foobar to 'open' a DVD-A, and have used the Convert dialog to save one of the surround-sound tracks as a WAV file.

Something seems amiss with the Simple Wav Splitter, though - download .zip file OK, but when I unzip it, all it gives is a directory full of DLLs but no executable program ....

Uncle Samīs Army
2020-05-07, 07:42 AM
So Foobar provides a multitrack wavefile? Hmm, it must be editable with WaveLab! I will find out how to do it later.

GRC
2020-05-07, 07:48 AM
Well, it hasn't been established yet whether it's multi- or twin-channel. Will find that out once I decode it...

Uncle Samīs Army
2020-05-07, 07:57 AM
I just did a test with Foobar to convert a 5.1 SACD to Wave, it doesn't work, Foobar can't handle it.

paulcook
2020-05-07, 02:49 PM
I just did a test with Foobar to convert a 5.1 SACD to Wave, it doesn't work, Foobar can't handle it.

have you installed the foobar sacd plugin ( https://sourceforge.net/projects/sacddecoder/ )

that should solve any issues