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tmangia
2015-05-11, 04:36 PM
http://www.thetradersden.org/forums/showthread.php?t=117736
According to the mods:
Unfortunately, with no documentation on why this is NTSC instead of PAL, this is not allowed here.

I don't know what it meant, 'cause I gave the info at the first post, using MediaInfo program:
Video
ID : 224 (0xE0)
Format : MPEG Video
Format version : Version 2
Format profile : Main@Main
Format settings, BVOP : Yes
Format settings, Matrix : Default
Format settings, GOP : Variable
Format settings, picture structure : Frame
Duration : 7mn 35s
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 16.6 Mbps
Maximum bit rate : 8 000 Kbps
Width : 720 pixels
Height : 480 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 4:3
Frame rate : 29.970 fps
Standard : NTSC
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Interlaced
Scan order : Top Field First
Compression mode : Lossy
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 1.598
Time code of first frame : 00:31:09:15
Time code source : Group of pictures header
Stream size : 899 MiB (90%)
Color primaries : BT.601 NTSC
Transfer characteristics : BT.601
Matrix coefficients : BT.601

I'd like to know if this torrent could get active again.

Thank you

daddyray
2015-05-11, 05:29 PM
the transcode issue is something this tracker cares about

tmangia
2015-05-11, 05:58 PM
the transcode issue is something this tracker cares about

so what can I do about it to solve the problem?
thanks

vladsmythe
2015-05-11, 06:08 PM
It may never have been transcoded. If it was taped in the UK, it would be transcoded. But since it was clearly filmed, the transfer to video could have just as easily been to PAL as it was to NTSC. "Charlie Is My Darling" by The Rolling Stones is a classic example of British film that was transferred to NTSC and thus, allowed in trackers.
I think TTD tries to be sure of lineage, and if in doubt....pulled. Bummer, because it's a great show!

sonofedg
2015-05-11, 06:47 PM
Got burned like I did. Filmed in Europe and released in the US . . . Hard lesson to learn, but pay attention to the region code. Had a great Mott The Hoople reunion show, but the taper posted it in the US. Thusly it was pulled because of region code . . . Lesson Learned . . .

Audioarchivist
2015-05-11, 07:08 PM
I think maybe there's some confusion here - usually, video from England, France, etc. is in PAL format, so, as a rule, if something is from there then it almost always must be in PAL format.

Without knowing why your disc is NTSC and not the native PAL, it can't fly here. If you had a reason why it's in NTSC, like a film to video transfer, or a rebroadcast in North America where a PAL > NTSC transfer / transcode was done on "professional" equipment...

Audioarchivist
2015-05-11, 07:22 PM
Got burned like I did. Filmed in Europe and released in the US . . . Hard lesson to learn, but pay attention to the region code. Had a great Mott The Hoople reunion show, but the taper posted it in the US. Thusly it was pulled because of region code . . . Lesson Learned . . .

I don't think that's the reason... Or I don't understand your lesson! haha

Region codes have nothing to do with what format the video is encoded, and whether it's been transcoded by amateur equipment or not. It's a lack of lineage and / or an explanation of a possible mystery transcode that's the problem here. What was yours???

sonofedg
2015-05-11, 07:53 PM
Got it from Dime, figured that that the background on it was sound, alas, not the the case . . . . I use Dime as a Benchmark for uploads . . . but in todays world , there needs to be more research to the project . . .